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"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Pretty bad ass black bear.
Damn shame they weren't armed. An magazine full out of an old government model should have been enough to prevent that situation.
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Interesting in a way. Contradicts(duh) reports it was a grizz and that they were not allowed to carry firearms..
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Grizzly bear country and not allowed firearms. Something is wrong with that.
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I call a lot of game in with my FoxPro..... Everything I seen…… has /always came from behind the speaker ....
I work harder than a ugly stripper....
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Looks like bear spray didn't help. / From the article "It happened so fast that neither woman had time to deploy bear spray initially, Murphy said. Trainor reportedly sprayed the black bear twice, he said, which likely saved her life."
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Grizzly bear country and not allowed firearms. Something is wrong with that. Also from the article "ABR employees are offered bear awareness training. Johnson and Trainor had gone through the most recent training in April, Murphy said. And the company allows employees to carry firearms in the field as long as they undergo instruction, he said."
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Some guys I went black bear hunting with in BC had a friend stalked and eaten by a black bear. Could tell from the track that the guy was trying to keep a tree between him and the bear. Didn't work.
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Some guys I went black bear hunting with in BC had a friend stalked and eaten by a black bear. Could tell from the track that the guy was trying to keep a tree between him and the bear. Didn't work. I think when black bears get it on their mind to go after something they are set on it. Friend of mine shot one a couple of years ago while deer hunting in GA. He was in a climbing tree stand bow hunting. Bear saw him and started climbing the tree. He yelled, waved, etc while it was climbing and kicked at it when it got to the bottom on the stand which caused it to go back down the tree. Kept looking at him and started up the tree again so he leaned over the edge of the stand and shot it. He said it was a headache going through the deal with game wardens but they agreed he should have shot it.
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"ABR employees are offered bear awareness training. Johnson and Trainor had gone through the most recent training in April, Murphy said. And the company allows employees to carry firearms in the field as long as they undergo instruction, he said." A long time back when I worked for ABR, I carried a Garand in the field with me. Whether it would have helped in an instance like this, who knows? But in an instance out in the Endicott field, it worked right well :-)
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Interesting in a way. Contradicts(duh) reports it was a grizz and that they were not allowed to carry firearms..
ABR employees are offered bear awareness training. Johnson and Trainor had gone through the most recent training in April, Murphy said. And the company allows employees to carry firearms in the field as long as they undergo instruction, he said.
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Grizzly bear country and not allowed firearms. Something is wrong with that. Read to the bottom of the article. ABR employees are offered bear awareness training. Johnson and Trainor had gone through the most recent training in April, Murphy said. And the company allows employees to carry firearms in the field as long as they undergo instruction, he said. The group choose not to carry.
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I've got a question about bear spray....why is it pepper based??? Why not skunk???
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Looks like bear spray didn't help. / From the article "It happened so fast that neither woman had time to deploy bear spray initially, Murphy said. Trainor reportedly sprayed the black bear twice, he said, which likely saved her life." Also from the article, ONE DEAD. Bear continually returned.
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Interesting in a way. Contradicts(duh) reports it was a grizz and that they were not allowed to carry firearms..
ABR employees are offered bear awareness training. Johnson and Trainor had gone through the most recent training in April, Murphy said. And the company allows employees to carry firearms in the field as long as they undergo instruction, he said. Thats exactly what I said. Early reports said it was a grizzly, and they could not carry firearms. This report contradicts that, it was a black bear and they could carry firearms.......
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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And from another article. "Murphy said the bear was 10 feet (3 meters) away when the women first saw it. “The conclusion would be that they were stalked,” he said. Trainor, a research biologist, was knocked down first, according to Murphy. The woman used bear deterrent spray at some point to no avail. He didn’t know if Johnson, a biological technician, was able to use her bear spray.
The animal briefly retreated, but it came back, Murphy said. “The bear moved between them more than once, and Ellen is certain that she sprayed the bear very thoroughly,” he said. “But it was just a hyper-aggressive bear.”https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...319da7_story.html?utm_term=.23a9f3019a2b
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I've got a question about bear spray....why is it pepper based??? Why not skunk??? I suppose for the same reason it is used as an attractant in trapping lures. It's offensive to human olfactory senses, but not other animals.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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And pepper oils burn mucous membranes.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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"There was some duration to the attacks. Erin suffered the brunt of it," Murphy said."
That had to be awful.
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Sad story. I only trust guns when it comes to Bears. And stories like this further convince me.
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