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#12142640 - 07/12/17 More CWD found in wild deer in Pa.  
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Not too far from my stomping grounds which was already in DMA 3 but...

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CWD FOUND IN THE WILD IN CLEARFIELD COUNTY

HARRISBURG, PA - Chronic wasting disease has spread to free-ranging deer in an area of the state where it previously had been detected only in captive deer.

The Pennsylvania Game Commission today announced a free-ranging whitetail buck in Bell Township, Clearfield County, has tested positive for chronic wasting disease (CWD).

A news conference about the new CWD-positive deer and the Game Commission’s response will be held on Thursday, July 13, at noon at the Game Commission’s Harrisburg headquarters. The news conference will be available to view on the Game Commission’s social media pages.

The CWD-positive buck was shot by a wildlife conservation officer June 7 on State Game Lands 87 because it showed signs of being diseased. Preliminary tests indicated the buck was CWD-positive, and the final results confirm the buck was infected with CWD, which always is fatal to deer and elk.

The buck was within Disease Management Area 3 (DMA 3), which was established in 2014 after surveillance by the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture detected CWD at two captive deer facilities in Jefferson County.

Because this buck was located near the center of the 350-square-mile DMA 3, the DMA will not need to expand.


Full press release here:

http://www.media.pa.gov/Pages/Game-Commission-Details.aspx?newsid=138

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#12142767 - 07/12/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Dale K]  
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"....we may be able to slow its spread and minimize its effects."

Not eliminate or eradicate. Doesn't sound long term encouraging


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#12144283 - 07/13/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Dale K]  
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It's all over Texas too... best chance to end the disease is to shoot them all!

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Originally Posted by Mjduct
It's all over Texas too... best chance to end the disease is to shoot them all!


This link summarizes the current status of CWD in Texas, gives a basic description of it. Texas Parks and Wildlife Department - Chronic Wasting Disease in Texas


This video gives a more detailed description of CWD including symptoms, time to show symptoms, etc.


#12144487 - 07/13/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Dale K]  
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Sad, but damn serious business.


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#12144675 - 07/13/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Mjduct]  
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Originally Posted by Mjduct
It's all over Texas too... best chance to end the disease is to shoot them all!


Sorry- but that's NOT the answer. Not from jwall but Colorado, & Arkansas.
The prions are IN the ground already ! scavengers, coyotes, coons (RAcoons that is), buzzards,
et.al. pick up, excrete, transmit however and the BEAT goes on.

The best plan is 'attempt' to confine... but some critters can not be contained.

Extermination of 'cervids' will not solve the problem.

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#12145274 - 07/14/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Dale K]  
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banning wildlife feeding would help. these people who pile up corn and feed/salt blocks are the ones causing the spread. too much concentration in a small spot.


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#12145320 - 07/14/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: rem141r]  
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banning wildlife feeding would help. these people who pile up corn and feed/salt blocks are the ones causing the spread. too much concentration in a small spot.


Did you ever look at the tracks under a good acorn tree in the early fall? miles


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#12145515 - 07/14/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Dale K]  
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Miles,exactly,deer grooming each other ,licking branches ,food plots,on and on.

#12145562 - 07/14/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Dale K]  
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Deer are pretty communal animals, any good food/ water spot will concentrate them especially within the higher density areas like the Texas hill country
Tons of browse and not nearly enough hunting pressure more get killed by bumpers than bullets I bet in some areas.

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Some people want to place the blame for everything on bait piles, but the truth is, they don't know what to do about CWD. In fact they know very little about it. They have some theories that may be correct but they are still unproven. I hear that the brains in Colorado turned it loose in the wild to see what it did, way back. When we got Elk from them is probably where it came from in Arkansas. Could be from tame deer that people had before that became illegal, but most likely from the elk. miles


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#12145656 - 07/14/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Dale K]  
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I'm in Arkansas and everyone wants to think it came from the elk. It may have.but the states to the North of us already had CWD in their wild deer herds. Crows and buzzards hit every dead deer that hits the ground. And they move the prions around. I don't think there is any realistic way to contain it, as long as migrating scavengers can spread it. It will spread south eventually all the way to the coast. I've read a bit about the disease when it was documented in AR. The Prions are very resilient and can survive time and burning. My guess is it is here to stay.

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Coincidence that the only areas affected are where the elk were transplanted? miles


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#12146317 - 07/14/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Dale K]  
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As mentioned many times, Pa at one time had an overpopulated Deer herd, and the county in question was one of them. Fields of 200 Deer could be spotted and the Deer were concentrated. When winters were bad some individuals did extensive feeding that concentrated them further. CWD wasn't a problem. So how did it get here? My mind says it was introduced. If so the question is who, why and how?

Those who implicate bait piles are ignoring or don't know the history of Deer populations in Pa.


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#12147569 - 07/15/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Dale K]  
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That sucks.

One would be inclined to believe that it either showed up via brought in, fenced animals, reintroduction critters or it's one of those naturally occurring things.


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#12147572 - 07/15/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Dale K]  
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I also have to question birds. I figure that birds will eventually be the death of us.

Can birds, say crows or buzzards, 'carry it', have the spores in their crap from eating infected critters, drop turd in a next door state and now the disease is there?

I have no idea about that, but one would think it's possible, but again I have now idea about CWD.


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#12147640 - 07/15/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Dale K]  
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I think it is possible. Lots of fish disease in fish farms comes from birds, and some have to pass through a bird before it will get in the fish. Lots of fish raised for bait here, and birds are a big problem for them. miles


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#12147996 - 07/15/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Dale K]  
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Go check out the Meateater podcast episode 70. It is discussed with people that actually are working on the problem.

#12151900 - 07/17/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Dale K]  
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CWD transmission, via the intrastate shipments of "farmed" deer and elk, is certainly somewhat responsible for much of the spread of CWD.

When CWD was first documented in PA, it was found at several "deer farms" in York and Adams counties (both near the MD border). Try as they might, never did sort out where all of those captive deer from those affected areas, actually wound up. Fair to figure that many of those deer were scattered about the country, before anyone knew for sure there were CWD concerns? Much of that is due to lax oversight of the PA Dept. of Agriculture's poor management of deer farm operations.

Game Commission long had jurisdiction over farmed cervids in PA. That ended years ago, when the legislature gave jurisdiction to AG, mostly because cervid farmers complained about too much oversight and too many inspections. Draw your own conclusions.


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#12151932 - 07/17/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Mjduct]  
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Originally Posted by Mjduct
It's all over Texas too... best chance to end the disease is to shoot them all!

thankfully Gringo put up a post to correct your BS.


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#12152227 - 07/17/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Steelhead]  
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Originally Posted by Steelhead
I also have to question birds. I figure that birds will eventually be the death of us.

Can birds, say crows or buzzards, 'carry it', have the spores in their crap from eating infected critters, drop turd in a next door state and now the disease is there?

I have no idea about that, but one would think it's possible, but again I have now idea about CWD.


Steely, the prions that cause the disease are not a living organism (spore, bacteria, or virus). The prions are a form of abnormally folded proteins that cause the disease in the brain. These proteins are stable and can be transmitted from carrion or can remain unchanged on fodder or on the ground.


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#12152337 - 07/17/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Dale K]  
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While not the sole reason for its spread, the farming of deer to feed the "genetic monster trophy whitetail" mania has certainly contributed to the spread.


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http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2015/...of-chronic-wasting-disease/#.WW1lyIqQx-0

Feeding in an of itself doesn't seem to be the cause. However, extremely high protein feeding that contains certain animals proteins may be the cause. However, it's here and it doesn't look like you can kill it out.

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#12152522 - 07/17/17 Re: More CWD found in wild deer in Pa. [Re: Dale K]  
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We have CWD in colorado too.


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