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We used to run coyotes with hounds and whatever surplus FMJ ammo we could find were the preferred choice. I used it for calling coyotes too as it did not damage the hides much.

I have a couple ammo cans full which I use for plinking and training where absolute accuracy is not needed. I also use it in the latter situation as I don't mind losing the brass. I hate removing the crimps and some are tight enough they break the decapping pin. That may change some as I can talk my great grandson into doing this operation,

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Originally Posted by woodmaster81
We used to run coyotes with hounds and whatever surplus FMJ ammo we could find were the preferred choice. I used it for calling coyotes too as it did not damage the hides much.

I have a couple ammo cans full which I use for plinking and training where absolute accuracy is not needed. I also use it in the latter situation as I don't mind losing the brass. I hate removing the crimps and some are tight enough they break the decapping pin. That may change some as I can talk my great grandson into doing this operation,



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I too used to be on the FMJ kick. Wow, cheap ammo and all that. Then I decided if I'm going to shoot rocks and other unimportant stuff, I had better use a more accurate bullet. Now I use the Sierra 55 gr semi pointed. It feeds well and doesn't leave a group that looks like buckshot on paper.


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I know it's cheaper, but think I'll stick with plastic tips for my new AR. Fiocchi loaded with VMaxes is cheap and accurate. Also, the brass I can find to reuse won't have crimped primers to futz with. Less chance of ricochets too.

Watched a guy on YouTube yesterday wringing out a new AR. He was out in the wild somewhere, but you could hear about every fourth round go whining into the distance. Not good, even out West.


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I don't shot FMJ, but, I have FMJ stores for my semi autos.
In fact, I don't really shot my semi autos. I've shot so many thousands upon thousands of rounds through the platforms that I feel I pretty much got it. That may be egotistical, but, I think I can pick up an AR and hit out past must reasonable distance with respectable accuracy without having to continually practice and burn powder.
That being said, I still continue a fairly frequent dry fire regime.


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Ringworm did you post in the AR challenge thread? I just posted again with worse results but still with the hand loads I tried the best I could do was 1.4 inches for 20 shots. You should take the challenge and post up your targets.


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If one doesn't like to shoot then maybe they should take up golf?

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Originally Posted by TWR
If one doesn't like to shoot then maybe they should take up golf?

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I shoot a lot of the cheaper FMJ ammo because I like to shoot, and it's cheaper.
Everybody is different of course but I believe the 50gr vmax loads by fiochhi are the best deal going for a minimum uptick in price over the bulk FMJ loads..with some diligence it can be found on sale for $20/50


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IMI M193 can be had for .31 a round right now and the upside is I get great brass for my 223AI for free!

It doesn't matter to me what others punch plates or paper with but if it takes 1/4" ammo to hit a 6" plate, you need to shoot more.

And what fun is it to sit on the bench and shoot groups anyway?

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Originally Posted by TWR


It doesn't matter to me what others punch plates or paper with but if it takes 1/4" ammo to hit a 6" plate, you need to shoot more.



Laughin' here..............a well struck nail head.

Except for LR practice, or precision shooting at 100 yards or so, there's absolutely no rational reason for using premium ammo/bullets, whether bought or handloaded, for practicing speed shooting, off-hand shooting or anything else at ranges less than 150 yards on man sized or similar targets.

Even banging 12" or so targets at longer range can be done with the better FMJ ammo today.

Unless you're shooting a pretty high-grade barrel, IMI M193 is better than most run of the mill barrels & guns, IMHO.

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I am thinking about the 3300 feet per second independence ammo. whistle


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Mostly for plinking,I use handloaded match ammo for long range shooting. I do have a very accurate load consisting of the Hornady 55 gr fmj and 25.3 gr of Exterminator, shoots groups under an inch in both my AR's.

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Originally Posted by jimmyp
Ringworm did you post in the AR challenge thread? I just posted again with worse results but still with the hand loads I tried the best I could do was 1.4 inches for 20 shots. You should take the challenge and post up your targets.

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At any distance I'd likely use or need an AR , a better choice would obviously be to retreat to greater position of advantage and use a more suitable platform.
AR's are toys. Big boy erector sets.

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Originally Posted by ringworm


At any distance I'd likely use or need an AR , a better choice would obviously be to retreat to greater position of advantage and use a more suitable platform.
AR's are toys. Big boy erector sets.

Not trying to be a smartass, but I'm not sure I understand this?


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Those pics don't comply with the challenge rules. wink

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prefer to call it ball ammo, have a bunch but only shoot it when starting folks. Shoot a bunch in 9mm and 45acp popping plates

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Been getting some emails from various ammo vendors lately with decent factory fmj ammo down around $.25/rd. Lowest I've seen in a long time.


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ringworm like the man said in the movie, its a perishable skill and your pics don't prove you can shoot. Thank you for your service (I guess) if that is your actual paperwork and uniform. Then excuse me for being a doubter but after years of Lee24 and Safariman I just cannot believe everything someone posts here.


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I use the FMJ's bought in bulk as blasting ammo and Hornady Steel Match 75 gr HPBT's when I want to see how a rifle will group. They shoot very well in all of my AR's. I killed a couple of hogs with them a couple of months ago. I was out today shooting them in my PSA Carbine. I bought them locally for $20 for a box of 50. While I do have dies, I have yet to handload for my AR's.


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PSA has Federal 55 grain and 62 grain on sale. Free shipping on 420 round cans on stripper clip. With a rebate they are 129 and 139 / 420 rounds.

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