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Let them serve they can be used as live fire targets for real soldiers. This whole conversation about if it's normal or not for a man to want to be a woman the other way around is mindless and could be nothing more than the decaying rotting side of our society. Even if they are born that way it's quite simple they were born f'ed up (wired wrong). Even if it's not there fault! we don't let the blind folks drive busses or fly plains. By the lefts ideals that's discrimination. I surely would not want some limp wrist butthole jockey in a fox hole with me.
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Congrats Klinger!
You finally got your sect 8!!!!! Bwahahahaha! Well played sir. Yeah, the only reason he wasn't discharged for mental illness was that they were convinced he was faking his transgenderism for the purpose of getting out of the military. If they thought he was for real, he would have been out.
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The Dems already rolled out an ex Navy SEAL turned sexual freak as their poster "IT".
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Just heard it on the news. Next should come homosexuals(from serving openly) and of course removing females from ALL combat roles... (wishful thinking.). The elimination of "Don't ask, don't tell" has had zero impact on mission effectiveness. Openly gay troops serving is going just fine. “Frankly, Senator, I’ve never cared much about two consenting adults and who they go to bed with,” -Mattis The transgender issue is bigger than this as it brings the behaviors and actions to the forefront of everyday movements. A Large difference in my experience. Really? I watch the bullshit training and resources spent every day on the base I work. Same for AD CO's that are friends of mine. My thirty years experience definitively differs. Mattis' comments go PRECISELY to the "don't ask don't tell" issue in my opinion. To say open homosexuality is not an affront to good order and discipline is naive. Females need to be removed from the combat arms as well. There have been exactly two training courses on the matter in my tenure. I have not seen any discipline issues what so ever derived from one's sexual preference. The trans-gender whatever thing is a separate issue entirely. In a professional setting, the sexual preferences are never to be brought up, thus it is a non-issue. Dudes claiming to be chicks (or vice-versa) in a shower or bathroom are different as the issue is directly in one's line of sight.
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Can anyone site a real dollar amount it cost for the tranny overhaul and the maintenance program on yearly basis. I did just read they have have a 40% or higher attempted suicide rate. That alone should bar them from military service.
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Can anyone site a real dollar amount it cost for the tranny overhaul and the maintenance program on yearly basis. I did just read they have have a 40% or higher attempted suicide rate. That alone should bar them from military service. What should bar them from service is that they're fugked up.
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I'm still not sure why the govt decided we should pay for "re-assignment" surgery for people in service. It's a huge cost that private sector insurance won't cover. Why should the govt pay for it? because liberals wanted that, and with barack in charge, they got it. SHOULD be easy enough to just reverse that order
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Shep Smith ain't gonna like this.
I almost feel like watching today.
Almost.
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This will make liberal head explode all across America. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/trump-no-transgender-people-serve-u-military-twitter-131526764.htmlWASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Wednesday he would not allow transgender individuals to serve in the U.S. military in any capacity.
"After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow ... Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military," Trump wrote on Twitter. Heh, heh...bet that made obama drop a nut. You wish Trump was an Aussie don't you? phugging Australians have their own problems. They should pay attention to their issues, and stay out of ours.
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President Trump just kicked Obummer right in his ass. The communists/LibTARDS are in a frothing temper tantrum involving heel pounding and floor revolving on being denied their campaign of undermining the military with insane freaks who have a suicide rate of something like 40%
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This will make liberal head explode all across America. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/trump-no-transgender-people-serve-u-military-twitter-131526764.htmlWASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Wednesday he would not allow transgender individuals to serve in the U.S. military in any capacity.
"After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow ... Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military," Trump wrote on Twitter. Heh, heh...bet that made obama drop a nut. You wish Trump was an Aussie don't you? phugging Australians have their own problems. They should pay attention to their issues, and stay out of ours. And your problem is that you are a miserable piece of [bleep] with not long to live. Hurry up.
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Women in combat arms. Back 8n the '70s there was a lot of press on this issue, in rebards to Israel's use of women in combat.
At that time, the consensus was, the use of women in actual combat created unacceptable casualty rates. (Actually, on both sides) As the male combatants would take extraordinary risks in their attempts to protect their female compatriots.
But those who refuse to learn from history are certainly doomed to repeat it. Both the Israelis and the Russians no longer allow this in direct combat units, INCLUDING the IAF.. Don't know if it is true, but I read that the Kurds do have female combat soldiers. That is a typical sign of desperation. Same reason the Soviets and Israelis used them. They were running out of bodies. I know some menopausal women that would make a scary as hell regiment.
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- - - - Soldiers going through Medical Evaluation Separation Boards. According to the shrinks, this transgender thing is real for some folks - - - May be - have zero experience with such problems and can't argue any such reality. However, it being "real" is inconsequential to the matter. Many mental illnesses and destructive inclinations are real, and not acceptable for military personnel. Why would that alleged "reality" be treated any differently?
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There have been exactly two training courses on the matter in my tenure. I have not seen any discipline issues what so ever derived from one's sexual preference. The trans-gender whatever thing is a separate issue entirely. In a professional setting, the sexual preferences are never to be brought up, thus it is a non-issue. Dudes claiming to be chicks (or vice-versa) in a shower or bathroom are different as the issue is directly in one's line of sight.
You only think it's different because they've been conditioning your mind via the MSM for a longer period of time to accept homosexuality than they have for transgenderism. Your kids, however, will think of them both as normal and healthy, and will think you're positively backwards for thinking transgenderism is perverse. Just give the Cultural Marxists in control of our MSM more time. We'll get there.
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I just wish he would get the homos out next.
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I don't eat anything that didn't have a mother.
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There have been exactly two training courses on the matter in my tenure. I have not seen any discipline issues what so ever derived from one's sexual preference. The trans-gender whatever thing is a separate issue entirely. In a professional setting, the sexual preferences are never to be brought up, thus it is a non-issue. Dudes claiming to be chicks (or vice-versa) in a shower or bathroom are different as the issue is directly in one's line of sight.
You only think it's different because they've been conditioning your mind via the MSM for a longer period of time to accept homosexuality than they have for transgenderism. Your kids, however, will think of them both as normal and healthy, and will think you're positively backwards for thinking transgenderism is perverse. Just give the Cultural Marxists in control of our MSM more time. We'll get there. Never did I claim homosexuality was "normal." I stated that sexual preference is not a topic that a professional organization discusses in the work center. I still feel homosexuality and transgenderism are clearly perverse and it discusses me, personally. However, it is not my place to judge anyone on their choices in that regard. I do not follow MSM at all as I have clearly seen how propagated it has become. My only claim is this...in a professionally conducted work center, homosexuality has zero bearing on good order and/or discipline. Those that cause issues, on either side of this debate, are swiftly dealt with in accordance with published instruction and the UCMJ.
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And your problem is that you are a miserable piece of [bleep] with not long to live.
Hurry up.
That seems excessive. Clark
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Every morning with Trump as president is like Christmas as a kid.
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Every now and then, one of those things makes me bust up. Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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