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#12245048 - 09/01/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: Formidilosus]  
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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Originally Posted by ALLongshot
62gr tsx and Varget would be the way I would go but only for a place that was open and I could choose my shot and have a solid rest. I would aim for the neck.


Do you not "choose your shot and have a solid rest" when shooting other guns?



Have killed a bunch of deer with a 223 and do not shoot them any different than I do with any other chambering.


303 yards. Around 20 inches of penetration with a 77gr TMK.
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A tick over 100yds. 77gr TMK. Again 18-20 inches of penetration after destroying the onside humerus.

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Horry sheet it tore the buck in half! 223 for the win lol


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#12245613 - 09/01/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: ingwe]  
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Originally Posted by ingwe
Tom, I'm using a max load of CFE223 and a Barnes 55 gr. TTSX in my 1 in 8 twist Tikka.....seat it in a bit, like most Barnes,shoots like a house afire and kills stuff really dead!!!


I use 0.1gr less than max under the TTSX. I don't want it to overpenetrate. grin

That's the load I mentioned earlier. Your rifle now makes it five that I know of that really likes that combination.


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#12245641 - 09/01/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: ingwe]  
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Originally Posted by ingwe
Tom, I'm using a max load of CFE223 and a Barnes 55 gr. TTSX in my 1 in 8 twist Tikka.....seat it in a bit, like most Barnes,shoots like a house afire and kills stuff really dead!!!



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ingwe, I thought you were stuck on the 53gr. tsx? Are the 55's more accurate in your Tikka?


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.


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#12249716 - 09/04/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: tzone]  
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I don't hunt deer with a 223, but the 62 grain Barnes will kill pigs. It rips cshit out of them. I use Varget and CFE.

#12249775 - 09/04/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: tzone]  
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Originally Posted by tzone
I now have two .223 Rem rifles. My boy and I plan to use them for walking/still hunting guns. Both have 1:8 twist barrels. A Ruger American and a Tikka T3 Stainless.

I have several types of powder and bullets. The powders are IMR 4350 and Varget.

Bullets are Nosler PT 60gr, Barnes TTSX 62gr and 55gr.

Am I ok, or should I look for a different powder?


T, not specifically a deer load, but 28 grs of CFE-223 pushes the 55 gr TSX's to 2900 fps in my 16" barreled AR house guns, I spect they'd work fine for deer and may give upwards of 3300 fps in the longer barrel of your bolt guns.

The testing around the house tells me I'd surely not want to catch one, even at a lowly 2900, it's a mean little buzzsaw of a bullet in homemade test media, complete with a sporadic cow leg bone in with the tight packed wet newsprint and old hard glossed magazines.


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#12253677 - 09/05/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: tzone]  
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My daughter will be heading afield in two weeks with a single shot 223 loaded with 60 grain partitions over 23.3 grains of tac. 1:12 twist. Best group was .8". Shots should be fairly close.


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#12255859 - 09/07/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: Formidilosus]  
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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
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75 grain Swift Scirocco with 25-26gr of Varget will be your Huckleberry. Varget is one the best powders for a 223 and your TTSX bullets are top 2 or 3 bullets also. I wouldn't shoot any bullet other than a Scirocco, TTSX, or Partition at deer sized game especially if its a kid shooting.




Why is that?


Why is wut?

#12255911 - 09/07/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: gunner500]  
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Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by tzone
I now have two .223 Rem rifles. My boy and I plan to use them for walking/still hunting guns. Both have 1:8 twist barrels. A Ruger American and a Tikka T3 Stainless.

I have several types of powder and bullets. The powders are IMR 4350 and Varget.

Bullets are Nosler PT 60gr, Barnes TTSX 62gr and 55gr.

Am I ok, or should I look for a different powder?


T, not specifically a deer load, but 28 grs of CFE-223 pushes the 55 gr TSX's to 2900 fps in my 16" barreled AR house guns, I spect they'd work fine for deer and may give upwards of 3300 fps in the longer barrel of your bolt guns.

The testing around the house tells me I'd surely not want to catch one, even at a lowly 2900, it's a mean little buzzsaw of a bullet in homemade test media, complete with a sporadic cow leg bone in with the tight packed wet newsprint and old hard glossed magazines.



Tom, Im shooting CFE223 in my Tikka...gets a LOT better velocity than Target...great accuracy.


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#12255962 - 09/07/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: ingwe]  
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Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by tzone
I now have two .223 Rem rifles. My boy and I plan to use them for walking/still hunting guns. Both have 1:8 twist barrels. A Ruger American and a Tikka T3 Stainless.

I have several types of powder and bullets. The powders are IMR 4350 and Varget.

Bullets are Nosler PT 60gr, Barnes TTSX 62gr and 55gr.

Am I ok, or should I look for a different powder?


T, not specifically a deer load, but 28 grs of CFE-223 pushes the 55 gr TSX's to 2900 fps in my 16" barreled AR house guns, I spect they'd work fine for deer and may give upwards of 3300 fps in the longer barrel of your bolt guns.

The testing around the house tells me I'd surely not want to catch one, even at a lowly 2900, it's a mean little buzzsaw of a bullet in homemade test media, complete with a sporadic cow leg bone in with the tight packed wet newsprint and old hard glossed magazines.



Tom, Im shooting CFE223 in my Tikka...gets a LOT better velocity than Target...great accuracy.


Excellent. I'll pick some up on Friday when I can make it to the LGS. After now owning any .22 cal centerfire rifles, and now owning two...I need more! grin It's pretty nice to be able to see your target through the entire shot.

I think my big gun is going to be a .22-250. laugh

#12259608 - 09/08/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: salmonhead]  
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H335, not TAC, read the wrong note and loaded the wrong load. Still accurate enough, but not as good as the h335.


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#12260705 - 09/09/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: salmonhead]  
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Originally Posted by salmonhead
My daughter will be heading afield in two weeks with a single shot 223 loaded with 60 grain partitions over 23.3 grains of tac. 1:12 twist. Best group was .8". Shots should be fairly close.

My son was shooting a similar load today with the 60 grain partitin and TAC. We'll be out next weekend on a youth hunt. Good luck

#12260749 - 09/09/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: tzone]  
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Originally Posted by tzone

I think my big gun is going to be a .22-250. laugh



My "big" gun is a .243...Im overcompensating.....


He spoke in tears of 15 years his dog and him traveled about. The dog up and died. She up and died....After 20 years he still grieves.
#12260913 - 09/09/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: jsthntn247]  
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Originally Posted by jsthntn247
Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Originally Posted by jsthntn247
75 grain Swift Scirocco with 25-26gr of Varget will be your Huckleberry. Varget is one the best powders for a 223 and your TTSX bullets are top 2 or 3 bullets also. I wouldn't shoot any bullet other than a Scirocco, TTSX, or Partition at deer sized game especially if its a kid shooting.




Why is that?


Why is wut?


Why only those bullets for deer in a .223?


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#12261282 - 09/09/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: jaydub in wi]  
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Originally Posted by jaydub in wi
Originally Posted by salmonhead
My daughter will be heading afield in two weeks with a single shot 223 loaded with 60 grain partitions over 23.3 grains of tac. 1:12 twist. Best group was .8". Shots should be fairly close.

My son was shooting a similar load today with the 60 grain partitin and TAC. We'll be out next weekend on a youth hunt. Good luck


What youth hunt on that weekend? Parks hunt or something? My son will be doing the state wide youth hunt on the 6-7th of October.

#12261885 - 09/10/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: tzone]  
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Michigan's youth hunt is next weekend. Going up to the UP, wife has family there. We will be out Oct 7th as well

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#12262169 - 09/10/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: tzone]  
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no experience with 223rem on deer but my thought process was to load the cheap Sierra 65gr gamekings for deer and use 62 gr barnes tsx for pig hunts?

#12262196 - 09/10/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: tzone]  
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Or just load 62gr TSX's or everything.


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#12262207 - 09/10/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: tzone]  
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Yes, could use the 62gr tsx for my hunting needs and use the 65gr sierra gamekings as cheap practice fodder.

#12262222 - 09/10/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: Steelhead]  
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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Or just load 62gr TSX's or everything.


I'm loving those in the .223AI...


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#12262250 - 09/10/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: tzone]  
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They work well. I've killed more than a few cans/bottles out to 600 yards with the 65gr Sierras


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#12270206 - 09/14/17 Re: .223 Rem Deer Load [Re: salmonhead]  
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Originally Posted by salmonhead
My daughter will be heading afield in two weeks with a single shot 223 loaded with 60 grain partitions over 23.3 grains of tac. 1:12 twist. Best group was .8". Shots should be fairly close.

I couldn't get the partitions to stabilize worth a crap in a 1:12. Glad somebody can!

As to the original question: Varget isn't the perfect powder, but it should get you where you need to get speed-wise. If in the market for another powder, my recommendation would be CFE. It gives me top speed and best accuracy out of all the 223's tried. The Partitions do stabilize well, and shoot into about 3/4" at 100 in my RAR. I'd feel completely comfortable packing that setup for game up to deer, but I haven't done it yet.

My RAR in 223 likes Hornady 68 bthp, and shoots them really well. I've taken two bucks with them. One was a neck shot, through the spine and gone, with the buck dropping in the scope. The second was a smaller meat buck, drilled through the shoulders. Busted the on-side humerus, through the ribs making soup of the forward lungs, and stopped just past the busted off-side humerus in the shoulder. Deer dropped, but took a minute or so to be dead. Shots were both just shy of 100 yards. I should have taken more time to get set for the second deer. Pulled the shot a bit. Didn't mean to peg the shoulders, but in retrospect, I'm glad to know what that bullet does in that case. Have also watched another deer get shot with that same bullet, at about 50 yds, through the ribs. Exited, leaving soup, deer dropped at shot. I'm quite happy with this load. I bought a bunch of the Federal Fusion bullets from Rocky Mountain Reloading, and they shoot great out of the RAR, but I've not hunted them yet.


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