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75 grain Swift Scirocco with 25-26gr of Varget will be your Huckleberry. Varget is one the best powders for a 223 and your TTSX bullets are top 2 or 3 bullets also. I wouldn't shoot any bullet other than a Scirocco, TTSX, or Partition at deer sized game especially if its a kid shooting. Why is that?
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The powders are IMR 4350 and Varget.
Bullets are Nosler PT 60gr, Barnes TTSX 62gr and 55gr.
Am I ok, or should I look for a different powder? The bullets would be more than adequate, and Varget oughta getcha close. If it didn't play nice for you in either rifle, then maybe try R15, H4895 - stuff faster than 4350. Just a thunk. FC
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Tom, I'm using a max load of CFE223 and a Barnes 55 gr. TTSX in my 1 in 8 twist Tikka.....seat it in a bit, like most Barnes,shoots like a house afire and kills stuff really dead!!!
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Have killed a bunch of deer with a 223 and do not shoot them any different than I do with any other chambering.
Same-o here with the proper bullet.
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62gr tsx and Varget would be the way I would go but only for a place that was open and I could choose my shot and have a solid rest. I would aim for the neck. Do you not "choose your shot and have a solid rest" when shooting other guns? Have killed a bunch of deer with a 223 and do not shoot them any different than I do with any other chambering. 303 yards. Around 20 inches of penetration with a 77gr TMK. A tick over 100yds. 77gr TMK. Again 18-20 inches of penetration after destroying the onside humerus. Horry sheet it tore the buck in half! 223 for the win lol
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Tom, I'm using a max load of CFE223 and a Barnes 55 gr. TTSX in my 1 in 8 twist Tikka.....seat it in a bit, like most Barnes,shoots like a house afire and kills stuff really dead!!! I use 0.1gr less than max under the TTSX. I don't want it to overpenetrate. That's the load I mentioned earlier. Your rifle now makes it five that I know of that really likes that combination. Ed
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Tom, I'm using a max load of CFE223 and a Barnes 55 gr. TTSX in my 1 in 8 twist Tikka.....seat it in a bit, like most Barnes,shoots like a house afire and kills stuff really dead!!! ingwe, I thought you were stuck on the 53gr. tsx? Are the 55's more accurate in your Tikka?
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I don't hunt deer with a 223, but the 62 grain Barnes will kill pigs. It rips cshit out of them. I use Varget and CFE.
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I now have two .223 Rem rifles. My boy and I plan to use them for walking/still hunting guns. Both have 1:8 twist barrels. A Ruger American and a Tikka T3 Stainless.
I have several types of powder and bullets. The powders are IMR 4350 and Varget.
Bullets are Nosler PT 60gr, Barnes TTSX 62gr and 55gr.
Am I ok, or should I look for a different powder? T, not specifically a deer load, but 28 grs of CFE-223 pushes the 55 gr TSX's to 2900 fps in my 16" barreled AR house guns, I spect they'd work fine for deer and may give upwards of 3300 fps in the longer barrel of your bolt guns. The testing around the house tells me I'd surely not want to catch one, even at a lowly 2900, it's a mean little buzzsaw of a bullet in homemade test media, complete with a sporadic cow leg bone in with the tight packed wet newsprint and old hard glossed magazines.
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My daughter will be heading afield in two weeks with a single shot 223 loaded with 60 grain partitions over 23.3 grains of tac. 1:12 twist. Best group was .8". Shots should be fairly close.
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75 grain Swift Scirocco with 25-26gr of Varget will be your Huckleberry. Varget is one the best powders for a 223 and your TTSX bullets are top 2 or 3 bullets also. I wouldn't shoot any bullet other than a Scirocco, TTSX, or Partition at deer sized game especially if its a kid shooting. Why is that? Why is wut?
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I now have two .223 Rem rifles. My boy and I plan to use them for walking/still hunting guns. Both have 1:8 twist barrels. A Ruger American and a Tikka T3 Stainless.
I have several types of powder and bullets. The powders are IMR 4350 and Varget.
Bullets are Nosler PT 60gr, Barnes TTSX 62gr and 55gr.
Am I ok, or should I look for a different powder? T, not specifically a deer load, but 28 grs of CFE-223 pushes the 55 gr TSX's to 2900 fps in my 16" barreled AR house guns, I spect they'd work fine for deer and may give upwards of 3300 fps in the longer barrel of your bolt guns. The testing around the house tells me I'd surely not want to catch one, even at a lowly 2900, it's a mean little buzzsaw of a bullet in homemade test media, complete with a sporadic cow leg bone in with the tight packed wet newsprint and old hard glossed magazines. Tom, Im shooting CFE223 in my Tikka...gets a LOT better velocity than Target...great accuracy.
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I now have two .223 Rem rifles. My boy and I plan to use them for walking/still hunting guns. Both have 1:8 twist barrels. A Ruger American and a Tikka T3 Stainless.
I have several types of powder and bullets. The powders are IMR 4350 and Varget.
Bullets are Nosler PT 60gr, Barnes TTSX 62gr and 55gr.
Am I ok, or should I look for a different powder? T, not specifically a deer load, but 28 grs of CFE-223 pushes the 55 gr TSX's to 2900 fps in my 16" barreled AR house guns, I spect they'd work fine for deer and may give upwards of 3300 fps in the longer barrel of your bolt guns. The testing around the house tells me I'd surely not want to catch one, even at a lowly 2900, it's a mean little buzzsaw of a bullet in homemade test media, complete with a sporadic cow leg bone in with the tight packed wet newsprint and old hard glossed magazines. Tom, Im shooting CFE223 in my Tikka...gets a LOT better velocity than Target...great accuracy. Excellent. I'll pick some up on Friday when I can make it to the LGS. After now owning any .22 cal centerfire rifles, and now owning two...I need more! It's pretty nice to be able to see your target through the entire shot. I think my big gun is going to be a .22-250.
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H335, not TAC, read the wrong note and loaded the wrong load. Still accurate enough, but not as good as the h335.
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My daughter will be heading afield in two weeks with a single shot 223 loaded with 60 grain partitions over 23.3 grains of tac. 1:12 twist. Best group was .8". Shots should be fairly close. My son was shooting a similar load today with the 60 grain partitin and TAC. We'll be out next weekend on a youth hunt. Good luck
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I think my big gun is going to be a .22-250. My "big" gun is a .243...Im overcompensating.....
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75 grain Swift Scirocco with 25-26gr of Varget will be your Huckleberry. Varget is one the best powders for a 223 and your TTSX bullets are top 2 or 3 bullets also. I wouldn't shoot any bullet other than a Scirocco, TTSX, or Partition at deer sized game especially if its a kid shooting. Why is that? Why is wut? Why only those bullets for deer in a .223?
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My daughter will be heading afield in two weeks with a single shot 223 loaded with 60 grain partitions over 23.3 grains of tac. 1:12 twist. Best group was .8". Shots should be fairly close. My son was shooting a similar load today with the 60 grain partitin and TAC. We'll be out next weekend on a youth hunt. Good luck What youth hunt on that weekend? Parks hunt or something? My son will be doing the state wide youth hunt on the 6-7th of October.
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Michigan's youth hunt is next weekend. Going up to the UP, wife has family there. We will be out Oct 7th as well
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no experience with 223rem on deer but my thought process was to load the cheap Sierra 65gr gamekings for deer and use 62 gr barnes tsx for pig hunts?
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