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I am a full time gunsmith. So you can think of me as the Gun Doctor. I get to see every thing that goes wrong, and if I see them over and over and over I can give sound advise, based on facts instead of opinions about what guns to buy and not buy.

The Ruger Americans so far have been trouble free.

The Remington M783 have been very troublesome.

To me that's a SUPER easy choice to make.

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I bought a Ruger predator in 22-250 a few weeks ago to serve duty as a cheap truck/Prarie dog/yote gun. It's a cheap POS but shoots well and functions good enough for what it is. The trigger is terrible, but I wasn't expecting anything else. I will burn the barrel out, pitch in the trash and repeat as needed.

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I have a Ruger American in 300 Blackout that is an extremely accurate rifle and I really like it.


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Ruger.


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Of those two, the Ruger without question.


^^^This^^^


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Not a Ruger American fan, I traded away my 06 model but do like the little rimfire model for teaching kids and using my 10/22 magazines.

Unfortunately the bargain models "non 700" from Remington are the worst rifles in the marketplace. Crappy fit and quality are outweighed by worse accuracy and dependability. With so many good choices in attractively priced rifles - Howa, TC Venture, Marlin, Ruger, Savage, etc the 783 is a very poor choice.

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Originally Posted by specneeds
Not a Ruger American fan, I traded away my 06 model but do like the little rimfire model for teaching kids and using my 10/22 magazines.

Traded away my RAR .30-06 as well, even though it was a gift from Dad. It was one of the early ones and I tried 6-7 different types of factory ammo in it. None shot well.

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Unfortunately the bargain models "non 700" from Remington are the worst rifles in the marketplace. Crappy fit and quality are outweighed by worse accuracy and dependability. With so many good choices in attractively priced rifles - Howa, TC Venture, Marlin, Ruger, Savage, etc the 783 is a very poor choice.


That is sure to piss off some 783 owners. But I agree.


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