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Unlike Winchester that starts new lines of ammo and strands it's customer without brass if they stop being popular Hornady is taking care of it's customers / followers.

I hope that they'll buy Winchester - then maybe we'll see winchester (Hornady) do a run of 7WSM brass...
In effect I have shifted from a winchester ammo nut, over to Hornady - they keep making 17 HM2 available, thier new brass is as good if not better than winchester..

To me this means thier product line leadership "gets it" and has some moral fiber that results in more customers...
A decade ago I think winchester ammo was dependable and they used to make runs of 358 brass - now I'm writing Hornady vs. Winchester... sign of the times I guess.


I still can't beleive winchester stopped making 7WSM brass after all the hype of it, and all the chamberings - making brass is the low bar, and the failed it... I can't recommend them any longer.
More over - I can't ever see referring anyone to a new cartridge made by winchester ... nor will the guys who got screwed by buying 7 WSM's.

Legends fall.

That's what happens when bean counters run the place..

Is this thread in the hopes that someone at the Olin Corporation just happens to see your rant and says hmmmmmm that's a good idea. LOL

Hornady does not make 7mmWSM brass either.

just one reason I stick with the classic cartridges. Nothing in America that a .30/06, 7MM Mauser, .270 or a .30/30 won't kill

I think that Winchester/Olin primarily focuses their manufacturing capacity on making loaded ammunition and component brass that sells in quantity and, because it is a financially sound thing to do, shunts ammunition and component brass that is low volume business to a "seasonal run" status.

I will grant you that Winchester/Olin has virtually orphaned a lot of cartridges with "WIN" on the headstamp. Being a fan of some of the Winchester orphans, like the 25 WSSM, 284, and 356, I know just how frustrating the lack of availability of factory loaded ammunition and component brass can be. I still shoot the 256 Newton and nobody, except maybe Speer, has made factory loaded ammunition or component brass for it since the U.S. entered WW2 12/41, so I know what real pain feels like.

Olin is a publicly traded company, so the leadership is likely focused on creating maximum value for share holders and, coincidentally, increasing the size of their bonuses. A quick peek at OLN shows that the value per share has risen over 50% since 11/16, from $20 to $32, so they are unlikely to change what they're doing as long as it is working to the benefit of share holders.

At least we can still get 300 WSM component brass and resize for other WSM and SAUM applications.

I know a guy who is a decision maker in the Winchester ammunition and component side of Olin and he listens to my rants, but seldom does anything to cool my jets. An exception was when I asked for a Deer Season XP hunting load for the 6.5 Creedmoor and wonder of wonders almost exactly what I asked for is now on retail shelves. I asked for a 120 grain bullet at +/-3,000 fps and got a 125 grain bullet at 2,850 fps.

reload,its simple.

Just trade it for a .270.

I wish Winchester would punch out another .223 WSSM in some form.




Dave

Major corporation "bean counters" vs a family owned/operated business! memtb

He's asking for the brass. WhyTF do you think he's asking for the brass?

I suspect Remington has orphaned more cartridges than Winchester has.

That aside

There's several reasons why many people didn't indulge in the short magnum craze.

Mike

I'd hardly call doing a run of HM2 every ten + years "making it available".

I saw the writing on the wall years ago and sold my Montucky in .325 WSM. Bought a Sako in .308 and have yet to need a second shot on anything. It's taken a couple mulies, a few whitetails and several blacktails (Sitka and Columbian). It's even dropped a couple elk for the stew pot. If I need more gun my .338 will get the nod. They still load factory for the old WinMag and brass is everywhere.

Spot on......the 17FB being Remington's latest abandonment.

Short mags.....meh

I have a notification in at Midway for 17FB brass.

Not holding my breath.

It helps to keep your finger on the pulse of the American firearms/ammo industry and buy rifles chambered for cartridges with a history of popularity.

Hat is why I sold the '06, the 22-250, and the 25-06. And then bought 7MM STW, 264 Win, 260 Rem, and 6mm-284. Becàuse they have always been well supported by the rifle and ammo factories.

Seriously, 7wsm is not a cartridge I woukd be afraid of, there is lots of love for the 300 wsm. As long as 300 wsm brass is available, it only takes one pass hrough a sizing die and a fireforming shot to have perfect 7mm wsm brass available.

Federal did the same thing with 338 Federal. Made brass for a bit, then stopped and only sells loaded ammunition. The beautiful thing though is I can send any 308 Win brass through the die and have my 338 brass though. But it would be nice to have headstamped brass. I bought some factory ammo on sale, but haven't gotten to shooting any yet.

Hornady scares me. They drop lines in a heartbeat. Most round nosed bullets are now gone, and instead they come up with zombie bullshit or rocket science nonsense or tipped or mono this or that. I stick with cup and core die hards like Sierra.

Make it out of 270 WSM brass.