Ribka, got the first birds, but we finally got into some sage grouse.. These were shot with my model 31 12 ga. and Federal 3 3/4- 1 1/4 - 6.. A friend gave me the ammo, so I used it.. Looking forward to your photos!!
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JD thanks, they are loved.. ribka, here they seem ok in spots.. The ones pictured I shot near Big Piney.. They seemed in fair numbers there also.. Both are really good hunters, Maggie the little one, may be the best one I have ever had.. But lately she has taken to chasing the birds after the shot.. Kate the older and bigger one, muscles the retrieve from Maggie.. I have to work on that.. The model 31 is an old 30" full choke.. Too much for birds mostly, but I really like the gun.. Have a 97 and model 12 with the same barrel and choke.. Thought of opening one up, but hate to do it.. My usual bird gun is my old 870...I have had it since the mid 70's.. I usually shoot a modified out of it...
I'm gonna chase them birds soon,,,,not this year but likely 2018,,,
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Good job Wyo CH, lotta guys back in the day hacked and whacked about those pee poor Fed D & P loads. I've found they are the answer when a guy is retro shooting an older gun with a fixed full choke for the first shot anyway. Just picked up a couple of boxes of those same loads at a gun show for $5 a box. Great pics and congrats on a good hunt. West Nile virus a few years a go took out the majority of sage grouse we had left in SD. Enjoy them while you can. MB
" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "
Thanks everyone for the kind words.. We were back at work again today. Only one grouse, 8 doves, one coyote & one badger.. Got the last two with my old .270.. Got some of the doves with my model 97.. Fun gun, but a full choke and it is tight.. My ammo for the grouse was the Fed. 6's, but on the dove I used RST 3 1/4 - 1 1/4 - 7 1/2.. The old pigeon load.. They were even marked as such.. Wish I had a few more.. Bought a bunch of RST years ago.. Good stuff, these loads are paper!!
Took the pup out a week ago for blues. We got into plenty of birds and left a few young ones for later. Got our 3. Pic is the last on of the day, got it coming down the mountain. Pup worked hard as usual and is getting better at holding her points. Only downer is she tore her feet up pretty badly, hence the duct tape on her feet. Looking forward to getting out for more!
Took the pup out a week ago for blues. We got into plenty of birds and left a few young ones for later. Got our 3. Pic is the last on of the day, got it coming down the mountain. Pup worked hard as usual and is getting better at holding her points. Only downer is she tore her feet up pretty badly, hence the duct tape on her feet. Looking forward to getting out for more!
Nicely done!! She could double has Hank's sister! Great looking dog.
Took the pup out a week ago for blues. We got into plenty of birds and left a few young ones for later. Got our 3. Pic is the last on of the day, got it coming down the mountain. Pup worked hard as usual and is getting better at holding her points. Only downer is she tore her feet up pretty badly, hence the duct tape on her feet. Looking forward to getting out for more!
nice and great looking dog
do you run her with an e collar?
how did she tear up feet running in forest and logging roads? Curious
Took the pup out a week ago for blues. We got into plenty of birds and left a few young ones for later. Got our 3. Pic is the last on of the day, got it coming down the mountain. Pup worked hard as usual and is getting better at holding her points. Only downer is she tore her feet up pretty badly, hence the duct tape on her feet. Looking forward to getting out for more!
nice and great looking dog
do you run her with an e collar?
how did she tear up feet running in forest and logging roads? Curious
Grouse pops seem to be good in the west
Thanks for the comments!
No e collar, I'm too much of a softy. We did most of our hunting at the edge of alpine and there is a lot of rock up there. I was surprised her feet were so beat up, we had hiked the full loop of this trail several times over the summer with out any issues. She's in heat now so plenty of time to heal up.
Sage grouse season is winding down.. Tomorrow is the last day.. No birds tonight, rain ruined the evening hunt.. Yesterday we found two coveys and scored in each one.. IF This could last forever!!
Sage grouse season is winding down.. Tomorrow is the last day.. No birds tonight, rain ruined the evening hunt.. Yesterday we found two coveys and scored in each one.. IF This could last forever!!
We made short hunt last week and managed two blue grouse.. First for my model 12 12ga. solid rib... 1 1/8 oz of 6's.. Maggie is checking them out again for about the 10th time...
Posted this in the workout thread, but some may find it worthy of the Upland forum:
Been away on a Grouse hunting trip to Michigan. Miss timed the weather and it was hot and to push all day would have crashed the Dogs and us, so the hunting consisted of 3hours early AM and 2 hours before dark. A Good many Birds flushed, but mainly Woodcock which we didn't shoot at except occasionally to reward the Dog for good work. Other than that little shooting.
It was like still hunting, but with little resemblance to Tai Chi. In the middle of the day at best it would have been sauna Tai Chi.
However, all in all, it was an eventful trip. Didn't leave with the expectation of meeting a couple hot nurses that wanted to mess around with my head.
So Glad ya' made it back alive from Da' UP, Battue !! Just back from three days on the Central UP ourselves. One hunter plus one FBECS; both Seasoned Citizens. Hunted grousey areas of Dickensen, Iron and Marquette counties. HOT, too hot for the 3rd week of Oct; no killing frosts yet either. Hardly any leaf fall and very muted colors too. Leaf peepers were NOT happy!
Hunted mornings only and managed a couple of grouse. Flush rates dismal, only sightly better than one flush per hour. Grouse population appears to be way down from the peaks of around the years 2000 and 2010. Drove many miles through good grouse country and saw only ONE (1) road bird in three days; and that's a tell in my world. Hard to remember a worse year for grouse hunting. The only Good News is that we were not skunked!!
(I will read the WO thread to see what the heck happened!!)
We roamed some of the same counties and like you because of the heat we hunted mornings and the last couple hours of daylight. Between times we drove around looking for spots. For 5 days, a good average would have been 10 Grouse flushes per day and 15 Woodcock. The Grouse were mainly singles with few exceptions and most were found around some good pine tree roosting trees. I only shot at three and it was a very late hatch Bird. I mean it was tiny and hardly had any head feathering. Melot had to run it down after it hit the ground and he took out the tailfeathers. It would have been interesting to have seen how short they were. The locals said it was a horrible extended wet spring. BTW, ran into some very nice individuals.
Had four Dogs, Merlot the Cocker, two Setters and a Pointer. While not a numbers hunt, the Dogs got into enough Birds to further their education. Merlot started going to his Birds more head up when the scent was hot. The last Bird of the trip he picked up the scent at around 20yards on the edge of a cedar trickle run. His head snapped around and he took the Bird out on a run. That was the Bird I wish I could have killed. Merlot was on the ground for the better part of each days hunt and by the end of day 5 he crashed. The little guy has some stamina and the heat obviously didn't do him any favors.
As far as road Birds, we did bump into perhaps 6 driving in and out for the evening hunts.
However, all in all, it was an eventful trip. Didn't leave with the expectation of meeting a couple hot nurses that wanted to mess around with my head.
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Sounds like it was worth acquiring the scar! Sorry your hunt wasn't up to par; but it's still bird hunting, so it was still good. I hunted with my oldest son in northern WI in 2015, my first and so far only grouse hunting. Weather was perfect, but I was told they were just coming out of the low end of the cycle. We still found a few birds, don't recall the total number of flushes, but 3 of us got 5 grouse and a woodcock in 2 days' hunting. My career average so far is .500 (1 for 2). Unfortunately, said son moved to Georgia less than a year later, so that trip has been it for me.
The biggest problem our country has is not systemic racism, it's systemic stupidity.
Your Merlot looks tired in that pic! Glad he got in some good work up there, despite summer-like conditions. And gosh what a tiny grouse. Wonder how old??
We hunted lots of covers that looked a lot like that. Its some hard, hot work in there for the dogs, when there is an understory of brambles too. We mostly made the trip bc/ we lost our Rocky to a malignant splenic tumor this summer. Despite moving heaven and earth in a vain attempt to defeat a malignant hemangiosarcoma. A horrible cancer which rarely shows any outward signs at all, until its too late to save them.
So we were down to just one dog, our Scout (also FBECS) is now 12 1/2 yo and good for 3-4 hours of work on a nice cool morning. We have made an effort to keep him and me, in decent shape for bird hunting this summer. But he just a tremendous amount of prey drive and was always ready to go. And we just never know when it will be time to retire him to the sofa. But that kind of hunting is hard for any one dog for three days in a row. He just slept practically all the way home. Usually I alternate days hunting him down here.
Mrs Bumpo was along for the trip so after a field lunch we went back to the hotel for a swim and a jacuzzi soak and then a nice nap! And then out for a nice dinner. So no evening hunts for us, which is always a good time to go back.
Looking forward to better bird numbers and more typical late October weather conditions next year.!!
Sorry about your Dog and I understand. I had to put Toby, the black Cocker, down this summer. His back had been bothering him, and then one day he was limping. The next more and by the third, his back legs were completely paralyzed. I trust the Vet and he said do it now. First time in 11years he didn't hunt with me.
That Bird was taken on a quick hot afternoon and Merlot was running low on his sugar. It was not long out of the egg. The breasts are no more than perhaps two inches long and may not make that.
Wishing you the best the rest of the season.
There Ya Go,
She really was a cute girl and with a great personality. On the mend, but she had potential.
The hunt was just fine. Not a lot of shooting, but the Dogs had more than a few solid contacts. A young Setter had some solid Woodcock points and Merlot had more than a few nosefuls that had him wired.
Seems to be a good year for grouse here. Lots of flushes but the birds are wild and flush at first contact. None will allow the dog to point and almost all will flush without being seen. The dog has got locked on a few woodcock which is nice to see. The dog does work well finding downed birds but those are hard to get. Maybe the birds will slow down when it gets colder. Still quite warm here. No frost yet.
2 Bud's and I hit the Pa game lands for the second time for Pheasants. Many of the Birds are surprisingly strong flyers with wild flushes traving over 500yards. Dogs are doing better than fair at finding. Last Friday 28 Birds were put up and 5 taken home. Today 16 and 6 rode home with us.
Beautiful photos and dogs... Wonderful.. What shotgun battue??? Our pheasant season opens Sat.. We will miss the opener, but hunt a week or ten days after...
The first day I used my Fathers Parker VHE 16Ga and today the Ithaca 37 28ga. One friend used a Beretta Ultralight O/U 12Ga and the other an SKB sxs 20Ga.
Seems to be a good year for grouse here. Lots of flushes but the birds are wild and flush at first contact. None will allow the dog to point and almost all will flush without being seen. The dog has got locked on a few woodcock which is nice to see. The dog does work well finding downed birds but those are hard to get. Maybe the birds will slow down when it gets colder. Still quite warm here. No frost yet.
Bell on the dog, double gun, brace of grouse...It doesn't get more Classic.
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2 Bud's and I hit the Pa game lands for the second time for Pheasants. Many of the Birds are surprisingly strong flyers with wild flushes traving over 500yards. Dogs are doing better than fair at finding. Last Friday 28 Birds were put up and 5 taken home. Today 16 and 6 rode home with us.
I don't think the dogs were ready to call it a day.
Hunt with Class and Classics
Religion: A founder of The Church of Spray and Pray
Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”
Merlot should have been. That is some nasty thorny country, and on getting some of them out during the evening at home he had a couple lower hanging delicate parts glowing red.
I appreciate what he does. Hope it appreciates the Bag Balm.
These expressions possibly more accurately display how they feel.
I went to Pennsylvania to hunt the first four days of their pheasant season. My GSP just turned 2 in October and my lab was 2 in April. I was thrilled with how hard they hunted, retrieved, and worked together. We managed to get both of our birds all four days and flushed plenty more while scouting and walking.
The new picture system has me confused. I'm not sure how to post pictures directly into my post anymore, but here is a link to some pictures that I have in the 24HCF picture forum.
Bell on the dog, double gun, brace of grouse...It doesn't get more Classic.
I'm getting to enjoy bird hunting more than deer hunting these days. Lots of birds this year, but they're some wild. Most are flushing out of sight out of range.
One of the better days from last Month, in North Central Montana. Picked up another grouse after this pic for my limit bird. 10 birds for 2 guns was a pretty good day this year for us our there.
Nice Job... Love to see those pictures!!! We finally got into the roosters.. Poor season so far.. Have photos when the wife gets them on the computer.. Enjoy and keep shooting..
35degrees, wet and windy so it tended on the chilly side. After 4 hours Merlot was out of gas from busting brush and starting to shiver. So the posing pic was done quickly.
Yep, pudelpointer. First one of the breed and first gundog ever. So far, I'm quite the fan. Now, if I could just do him justice by the training and putting birds in front of him.
Yep, pudelpointer. First one of the breed and first gundog ever. So far, I'm quite the fan. Now, if I could just do him justice by the training and putting birds in front of him.
Mine's a smoothcoat. I grew up with several breeds, but now I don't think I would buy another breed after this one.Very biddable, but he listens to me the best by far. Esp. like the non-shedding aspect.
Yep, pudelpointer. First one of the breed and first gundog ever. So far, I'm quite the fan. Now, if I could just do him justice by the training and putting birds in front of him.
They have a lot of energy, and they like anything that resembles fun. It was a hard choice for me when I got my griffon, Rosie. I almost got a pudelpointer. I still might when there is an opening here. Rocky & Cookie are 15 now, but I'm in NO hurry.
Hunt with Class and Classics
Religion: A founder of The Church of Spray and Pray
Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”
Yep, pudelpointer. First one of the breed and first gundog ever. So far, I'm quite the fan. Now, if I could just do him justice by the training and putting birds in front of him.
They have a lot of energy, and they like anything that resembles fun. It was a hard choice for me when I got my griffon, Rosie. I almost got a pudelpointer. I still might when there is an opening here. Rocky & Cookie are 15 now, but I'm in NO hurry.
Yep, pudelpointer. First one of the breed and first gundog ever. So far, I'm quite the fan. Now, if I could just do him justice by the training and putting birds in front of him.
Mine's a smoothcoat. I grew up with several breeds, but now I don't think I would buy another breed after this one.Very biddable, but he listens to me the best by far. Esp. like the non-shedding aspect.
Dandy looking dog!! Mine too listens to me better than anyone else in the house. My next one will likely be a PP as well. Nothing I really don't like about the breed thus far.
Daughters turn to go to in-laws for Thanksgiving, so rather than be the odd duck at another family Thanksgiving, Merlot and I went Grouse hunting and combined it with some Deer observation for come Monday. In 3.5hours put up 4 Birds and said one coming home is enough.
Merlot took it out of the tangle behind him and it came out a low left to right. Flopping, so as usual with Merlot the rudder is gone. [/url]
Crossing this field on the way back to the truck and I let Merlot run without paying attention. Until that is, I hear wings beating under an Alder bush out in the field. He takes the Bird out and it flies out in the open for 100yards plus a little.
Perfect weather to hunt Grouse. Saw Deer in the high teens. Two Bucks and one would be good enough to take the safety off.
Not much of a hunt, but got back from a buddies house this afternoon to pick up some pheasants for dog training tomorrow. Walk around the garage and gear leaves rustling, look up and it's a covey of Bobwhites. Change direction, grab a shotgun and out to dog pen for my 7 month old shorthair.
A point on the covey and then a point in two singles. Solid. Who needs tame pheasants anyway. Of course the shots presented were through the brambles and no quail were harmed in this endeavor.
This was his second encounter with birds, wild at that. Previous being opening weekend in Kansas. Can't wait to put some miles behind this guy.
Clark and I headed for a high, steep ridge today. We climbed for a good hour, gaining over 1,000' from where I'd parked the Jeep. Up top, among the mountain mulies, we got into chukar!
What a great dog! Without him, it would have been just a hike. As it was, we came home with two nice chukar for tonight's dinner. Also saw a golden eagle, at least a dozen mule deer, and more than a dozen bighorn sheep. It was a good day.
The 12 ga Beretta isn't pretty, but it's the shotgun I shoot best:
Clark worked hard and had a blast today:
You're pointing birds where? Good grief!
If you've never hunted wild chukar - they thrive on high, steep terrain. We climbed well over a thousand feet from where I'd parked the Jeep. Could have shot more, but somehow two seemed like enough. No other boot tracks seen. No spent shell casings. Just a crazy steep ridge that required me to use one hand as well as both legs to climb, some wildlife, and more than a few chukar. What a great day!
Ya, I've learned to trust the dog. Once in a while I'm sure he's pointing where a bird used to be... But mostly he's ON. And oh gosh, I do appreciate that!
Awesome!!!!! Truly!! At my age not in the cards.. Enjoy!!
I'm only 61, and workout an average of 5 days a week so I can still do this. Today though... We climbed, my dog and I, 1400 feet from where I parked the Jeep before he began acting birdy. We climbed past the mule deer who eyed us suspiciously. We scared a golden eagle from his perch on a big snag about 3/4 the way to the top. Ugh.
I asked my dog if he could maybe find some birds at least a little lower down next time?
So, next Thursday, we're going to the pheasant club! Big, fat, pen-raised yummy, beautiful pheasants released in a much flatter area. The dog will appreciate. My son will accompany me and will appreciate. After today? I'll appreciate!
Two of us went out yesterday afternoon at 3. We were hunting at 4, and had two roosters by 5. Not bad for a couple of guys in tennis shoes. It was in the 60's here yesterday, too nice to stay home. Dogs loved it and so did we. I dressed the birds and gave them to my 93 year old neighbor lady, she loved the visit. It was an all around success.
"Miss Jean Louise, stand up. Your father's passin.'"
GuyM, you are so right about chukar. Damn hard bird to hunt, but, FUN! And tiring. At 67, I'm not giving up on them. I just take my time. Going again tomorrow. Therapy.
Last monday I took Kai out for a "short" pheasant hunt, got into a friggin' porcupine instead. Had to carry her out as there were quills in the bottom of her foot and clear up to her arm pit. I pulled a bunch but took her to the vet where they did a couple cutdowns to remove some that were buried in the muscle and under the skin as well as remove the rest I couldn't get. Even they missed a few, there's some still working their way out. Looks like we're done for a few weeks. Good times...
Last nice weather day before nasty winter hits next week. 3 shots, 3 birds. Somebody's a little tired and hot even. "Sprite" finds them before they're shot and after they're shot. She lets me do the killing and actual pick up.
English Cocker Spaniel Ithaca 37, 12 gauge ImpCyl Fiochi Golden Pheasant #5, 1 3/8 ounce, 1250 velocity (the slow one)
And two more before church this morning. Public land that was hit hard yesterday by out-of-staters, and they drove by this morning and told me not to bother. Oh well....
Sprite had to really work for these two, as she had to roust them out of the thick cover, and they both dropped into heavy cover so she had to go find them. The second one actually flew injured about 75 yards away before he dropped out of the sky. She's pretty well on to hunting "dead" on command wherever I tell her, so we walked over there and she found him buried in the tall grass.
Yeah, I looked awhile for that ImpCyl in 26". It cost me more than it should have too, but it's a very nice gun for carry and shooting both. I plan to hunt it for a couple of years than give it to my youngest son. It's supposed to be his but he's letting me "borrow" it for now until he gets bigger.
Last monday I took Kai out for a "short" pheasant hunt, got into a friggin' porcupine instead. Had to carry her out as there were quills in the bottom of her foot and clear up to her arm pit. I pulled a bunch but took her to the vet where they did a couple cutdowns to remove some that were buried in the muscle and under the skin as well as remove the rest I couldn't get. Even they missed a few, there's some still working their way out. Looks like we're done for a few weeks. Good times...
6.75 in 12 gauge @ 26". The magnum versions are actually over 1/2 pound heavier (actually about 10 ounces more @ 28" barrel). That difference makes all the difference when walking around in heavy cover. The original 2 3/4 inch receivers are the nice ones.
Though, an Ultrafeatherlight 12 gauge goes 6.25 like your 20 gauge.
Last year, I had a very good year on pheasants with a 20 gauge Ithaca Ultrafeatherlight shooting 1 ounce #6 copper-plated. I only noticed a drawback when I got past 35 yards. So late season, it seemed prudent to switch back to a 12 gauge. The 12 is definitely a better all-around choice. If you have a 3" mag 20, then the Federal Grand Slam load will make it mimic a 12 but with a lot of recoil.
Wild pheasants can be amazingly tough to kill with any sort of peripheral hit, and going-away shots require a lot of penetration. #5 nickel or copper works well, while #4 works even better but then the patterns start to lighten up if not using a tight choke. #4 copper through a really tight choke can make incredible kills at ranges to 75 yards, but chews up birds at normal ranges.
The biggest problem is that any sort of not-immediately-dead pheasant is going to run/crawl into cover and then underneath the grass and cattails, where you can never see them even if you are literally standing on top of them. That's where a good dog that will hunt "dead" is invaluable.
Big snow dump coming today so went out out early this morn to a spot close to town. More of a dog walk than serious hunt. 4 flushes, no birds in hand. Dog is flopped out now so all good.
As much as I like a lightweight pump, there is nothing that comes close to a SxS for upland hunting, at least for grouse anyways.
Big snow dump coming today so went out out early this morn to a spot close to town. More of a dog walk than serious hunt. 4 flushes, no birds in hand. Dog is flopped out now so all good.
As much as I like a lightweight pump, there is nothing that comes close to a SxS for upland hunting, at least for grouse anyways.
how is the woodcock populations doing up in NB?
I sure saw a lot of them bear hunting and salmon fishing up there.
Always though about returning for woodcock and grouse. I know you need a guide uo there to bird hunt . Ive done waterfowl solo up in Canada but I think the upland is guide only if not mistaken
The dog needed exercise and my neighbor wanted to try bird hunting so we hit a local preserve on Saturday morning. Not nearly the same as wild birds, but they were strong flyers and had their running shoes on. Hank only really fudged up the first by flinching/creeping too much after the point flushing the bird too early. He tightened up after that.
On our last hunt we went for 5 days. Pretty slow, then we hit a bunch.. Limited out this afternoon.. Kate and Maggie had a ball. Great work.. The next day they were completely nuts.. Out of range, but that day we only move one rooster.. so they came out ok.. No punishment tank..
On our last hunt we went for 5 days. Pretty slow, then we hit a bunch.. Limited out this afternoon.. Kate and Maggie had a ball. Great work.. The next day they were completely nuts.. Out of range, but that day we only move one rooster.. so they came out ok.. No punishment tank..
Here is our final bird hunt for roosters this past season.. We finally cornered a few and managed a limit... Kate and Maggie may get into some huns or quail yet, or maybe a pay hunt to keep them in tune.. Fun day, too bad it is so long til next season..
battue, we had a great day or days there.. Too bad it is so far for us to go.. But still much fun.. You have a good one and that was an awesome buck with Bob's .270.. Kind of miss the Pa. hunts..
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Hard to remember a worse year for grouse hunting. The only Good News is that we were not skunked!!
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