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Killed tons of deer with 150 ballistic tip

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Originally Posted by SuperCub
I used 180s cuz they shoot well in a 308 Carbine I own. That load could have doubled as a moose load as well.

That's the reason which makes sense to me. Also, simplification with one load to do it all means not needing to sight in for a different bullet.

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They are not all the same. A few years back a guy did an extensive test of 30 caliber 180 grain bullets that was published in Handloader Magazine and I ordered it as a chart. That was a really good head to head comparison of lots of different bullets in wet newspaper. I know, we are not hunting wet newspaper, but it was a great article. Like I wrote earlier, I liked the Remington round nose Core-Lokt for our woods deer, so with nothing much better to do I shot dry bound together phone books with the 180 grain round nose Core-Lokt vs. the 180 grain pointed Core-Lokt. The round nose punched a bigger hole out of the first couple of phone books and the pointed opened later. It also out penetrated the round nose by two of three phone books. I was handloading back in those days and trying to simulate what I'd seen with those round nose Core-Lokts. The closest I came was with a 165 grain round nose Speer bullet.


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180 grain 308 deer loads are not the best, I have killed several pick up truck loads of deer with 150 grain WW factory, rem corelocks, you name it, in the 150-165 grain range. Killed the two of the biggest one 12 and one 10 with cheap WW powerpoints 150 grain the 3rd with a 223 and a 62 grain bullet. If you want to shoot deer in the lungs with a 180 that's your business, but having done it and found it behaves more like a solid on deer I learned after doing it so don't do it anymore. I have killed at minimum 1-3 deer per year for the last 18 years on two hunting clubs. When the kids were young I was killing 4-5. People wax poetic over their favorite loads and what they have found by shooting ballistic gelatin or whatever, I have just killed animals with different calibers and bullets. Deer are easy to kill. Find the best round for your rifle in the 150-165 grain range, practice with your rifle, and if your cannot overcome buck fever to the point that you feel a magnum or heavy bullets are required to kill a deer then take up tennis.


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I think they are. I using 150 TSX grain in the 30-06.

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150 Hornady Interlock, 150 Remington CoreLokt or 150 Nosler Ballistic Tip

Don't need anything else.


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A good deer killer would be the 150gr Hornady SP pushed by proper amount of Win 748.
There are plenty of others, mostly noted above, but this one is darn hard to beat.


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I use a 130 gr sp from Sierra 44 ge IMR 4064 groups at 1/2 in deer kills Bang flop

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I am sure it is not necessary, but I really like the federal power-shok 180gr. ammo for deer. It is accurate in my rifle and does a fine job on big heavy bodied whitetail bucks. I have had very good success with it. I save the cases and reload them with the now discontinued speer 180gr. mag-tip. Both shoot to the same point of impact from my rifle.

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150gn Nosler - used to take down deers and also a brown bear.

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Ill be using a 168 Amax this year...just because I have a bunch.

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48.5 gr Varget with 155 Scenar's if you roll your own.


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Originally Posted by Reloder28
48.5 gr Varget with 155 Scenar's if you roll your own.


That's in WW brass, right?

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They are all great loads it what shoots the best in your rifle an what u are groups and using it for. Your the only one going to get the job done

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Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by Reloder28
48.5 gr Varget with 155 Scenar's if you roll your own.


That's in WW brass, right?


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Originally Posted by Reloder28
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48.5 gr Varget with 155 Scenar's if you roll your own.


That's in WW brass, right?


Lapua


You've got my interest. The Scenar is long for a 155, and the Lapua is not as roomy as WW. Is the charge compressed a good bit? Chrono result?

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165's are king in both of my 308's. For factory ammo, Federal Premium 165 Trophy Bond is utterly accurate, same POI as the GMM 168BTHP, and bores one heck of a hole through a deer. I've never had one go more than 30 yards, blacktail and muley. All my hits are behind the shoulder (or through the shoulder when I get excited and forget where to aim). The bullet always opens up beautifully, bores a thick hole through, and exits out the back. I'd have no problem taking it to elk.

In the loading spectrum, 165gr Sierra Gamekings shoot amazingly well. I've not shot a critter with them yet (this year I will).

BUT, on the loading side of it, Federal just released the Trophy Bonds for reloading which they've never done before as far as I'm aware. You can bet I bought a couple boxes of em.

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Just put the 308 deer ammo in the box today. There are 2 factory loads in there. 165gr Hornady and 150gr Remington coreloc. But the reality is I will kill any deer I shoot at, with 125gr Ballistic tips over a max load of w748.


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Originally Posted by mathman
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48.5 gr Varget with 155 Scenar's if you roll your own.


That's in WW brass, right?


Lapua


You've got my interest. The Scenar is long for a 155, and the Lapua is not as roomy as WW. Is the charge compressed a good bit? Chrono result?


It is compressed, not too adverse. The load clocks 2890 fps in my 22" Rem 700.


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