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Gent's, anyone done a McMillan-stocked Model 70 - 670 / blind magazine?

How many rounds does it hold down?

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Yes: mine holds 3 down 6.5 swede. almost 4. McMillan supergrade ADL

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If I'm reading correctly it holds 3 down but not 4 down?


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3 down, with a little thinning in the area I believe it would hold 4. I ended up using a mauser follower to get the Swede to feed. Pre 64 long action so that may take some space as well

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Brad, I had a Super Shadow blind mag WSM. It held 3 down.

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I've done it, but can't remember how many it held in the belly. If I was doing it again, I would stick with the lightweight 1 piece bottom metal mainly because the Edge stock with a blind mag on a M70 has more square corners...the bottom metal makes it seem rounder when carrying it with one hand under the action.

Still have a MRC1999 blind mag that should be ~ the same that I'll try to check later.

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Should have said, 30-06-sized cartridge.


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Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
I've done it, but can't remember how many it held in the belly. If I was doing it again, I would stick with the lightweight 1 piece bottom metal mainly because the Edge stock with a blind mag on a M70 has more square corners...the bottom metal makes it seem rounder when carrying it with one hand under the action.

Still have a MRC1999 blind mag that should be ~ the same that I'll try to check later.


This +1. The Hunters Edge pattern stock does best with bottom metal. The square edges of the stock when in ADL configuration are annoying.

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Originally Posted by Brad
Should have said, 30-06-sized cartridge.


The blind '06 based Winlights hold 4. I have a blind 243 Fwt in Fwt pattern McMillan that holds 4. You need to notch out the 670 box for a classic so the ejector can clear.

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The blind mag McMillen I have on my 338 WM only holds two down, which is kind of a deal killer for an Alaskan gun. Wish I'da known before buying it.


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Just had Mcmillan open a blind magazine edge Winchester M70 stock to accommodate a floor plate/trigger guard. In 30-06, gun held 4 rounds,1 chambered 3 down. Now accommodates 5 rounds.


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I forgot to update. The MRC I have holds 3 down (35 Whelen).

If you do this using a standard mag box you have to grind the bottom to fit the blind mag. May be able to pick up an older 670 mag box but I'm not sure if there is a difference with most of them being push feed?

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I have two .30-06 rifles one is a stainless FWT classic in a blind Edge, the other a M670 in the Winlite sporter stock. Both rifles hold 4+1, though I can fit 5 down in the Winlite mag, I just can't get a round in the chamber with 5 in the mag. I prefer the Edge stock with the floorplate, but the deal I got on the stock made it tough to pass up.

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Thanks to all, both PM's and on this thread, for your input.

A recap for any contemplating the same...

The M70 Hunters Compact Edge with 670 bottom metal definitely holds 4-down. That's good.

Several here and in PM's that have had them mentioned they don't like how flat the bottom, sans bottom metal, is. Another who had one mentioned that aspect didn't bother him at all.

Two guys said they sold theirs because they missed the ability to clear the magazine from below.

Me, I prefer a blind magazine, having both types.

As to the flat bottom... can't say, other than my Kimber MT's seem just as flat, yet don't bother me at all. Should be fine for me.

Decisions...



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What caliber you thinking Brad?

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Randy, not really sure yet, Either 270 or 30-06.

Not that I need either...


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Originally Posted by Oregon45
Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
I've done it, but can't remember how many it held in the belly. If I was doing it again, I would stick with the lightweight 1 piece bottom metal mainly because the Edge stock with a blind mag on a M70 has more square corners...the bottom metal makes it seem rounder when carrying it with one hand under the action.

Still have a MRC1999 blind mag that should be ~ the same that I'll try to check later.


This +1. The Hunters Edge pattern stock does best with bottom metal. The square edges of the stock when in ADL configuration are annoying.


Agreed.

The problem isn't so much the flat bottom but the square edges. Feels like packing around a 2x4.

No comparison to Kimber Montanas, whether in 84 or 8400 WSM configuration, which have a more radiused edge.

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Good to know, thanks Billy.


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The old winlite/fw pattern suffers less from the square edge syndrome as well.

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Dumb question, but what's the "670"?

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I recall its was a push feed, bare bones blind magazine model from the early years - probably in the G15XXXX era.

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Originally Posted by Teeder
Dumb question, but what's the "670"?


Downmarket version of the pusher M-70. There's also a 770, which is similar. Sears (and maybe other department stores) sold some under their own brand name if I remember correctly. Both are still Model 70s, though.


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Originally Posted by Brad
Two guys said they sold theirs because they missed the ability to clear the magazine from below.

Me, I prefer a blind magazine, having both types.


I'm against blind magazines only because I live in the Pacific Northwest. We get the occasional dry day, but on most hunts, this WILL happen:

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I want to to be able to get the water out of the magazine without detail stripping my rifle. If I lived in Oklahoma again, I'd be open to blind magazines.


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If Montana had a standing army, a 270 Win with Federal Blue Box 130's would be the standard issue.
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Originally Posted by Teeder
Dumb question, but what's the "670"?


The 670 was the "Walmart" version of the post-64 Model 70, released around 1966. The same rifle was also available through Sears as the Model 53 iirc.


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My factory pushfeed blind mag Brown Precision stocked 30-06 holds 4 down. It does not have square bottom edges and has nicer ergos than the mickey compact stock.

I can stuff a fifth down, but cannot operate the bolt over top of it.

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Dakota,
Is your "factory pushfeed" an early winlite made by brown?

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One thing to keep in mind regarding the number down is the follower used. I think the 670 used a thin plastic type follower....if I remember correctly, I know at least one of the M70's I've had did. The MRC I'm using has a heavy, MUCH thicker, machined follower. Thickness of the follower could make a 1 round difference.

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Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Dakota,
Is your "factory pushfeed" an early winlite made by brown?


Yes.

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