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Based on my experience with quite a few Ruger ULs, that's as good as it get with accuracy. I shot a 3 shot group with my 77 MK2 257 Roberts today that eyeballed at about that, and I was happy with it. I'd say you have a very good load there. Agree completely, but there was an era when they over-bored them about .003" and they generally sucked for accuracy, especially with harder bullets...
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Don't shoot handloads assembled by someone else. This ^^^^ pretty much covers it. I would add don't shoot ammo obtained from someone else, either. When I purchased my Marlin 375 (.375 Win), it came with a couple boxes of 'Winchester factory ammo'. Not suspecting anything, I fired a few. They seemed safe enough but accuracy was horrible and velocity was very inconsistent. Couldn't decide if it was really bad factory ammo or bad handloads. Either way, I stopped shooting them and tore the rest apart. Nowadays I don't even consider shooting ammo unless I know for sure it is factory fresh or I've loaded it myself. The one exception is my hunting buddy's handloads for his 7mm RM - I've taken a couple shots using his 7mm RM at the range but only after watching him shoot from the same batch. His load is one I used for 20+ years and he has used since '98 or '99 when he got his 7mm RM. No need to go shooting someone else’s handloads. You’re dangerous enough on your own, firing 280’s in your 338!
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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The OP bought the ammo from a small manufacturer.
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The 110 Accubond seems a pretty tough bullet, my backstop is pretty hard black clay and the bullets made good mushrooms and retained their cores. I ordered some dies and bullets today so soon I will be building my own for it. In reality 1 3/8 groups are good enough for just about anything I would use the rifle for. I really like the rifle itself, light, well balanced and fits me well. Maybe we are all just too used to our bullet holes hugging each other!
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Like you, I love the way Ruger ultralights feel and fit me. We have become spoiled by sub MOA accuracy, but the truth is a gun that will give us 2 MOA is perfectly suitable for about 99% of the shooting we will ever do, Brass for the 257 is hard to find at times. I have started shooting Accubonds, but have yet to put one in an animal. Everything I have read about them gives me good confidence.
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I have my 257 set to go with the Nosler factory ammo with the 110 Accubond so I am also encouraged by the reports of it. Hopefully I can bloody the Ruger pretty soon into the season.
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The 110gr Accubond works on bear, so deer shouldn't be too much of a problem. This was launched from a 250AI, which is nothing more than a Roberts that fits a short action better. MV 2935fps ![[Linked Image]](https://s6.postimg.org/x0bidz735/May252-1.jpg)
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It would seem a 25-243AI would be a fine round also.
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I have my 257 set to go with the Nosler factory ammo with the 110 Accubond so I am also encouraged by the reports of it. Hopefully I can bloody the Ruger pretty soon into the season. The 110AB works great in my 22" barreled Ruger M77 .257 Roberts. I handload them long to fit the magazine but they still can't touch the lands. +P brass, H4350, CCI Large Rifle, 3163fps. Very accurate in my rifle - busting clay pigeons at 400 is child's play, hitting them at 500 and 600 is more of a challenge but doable - especially if the wind cooperates.
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I sent the serial number in to Ruger and they say the rifle was made for the European market or for export. So the 257 was popular in Europe?
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I have the same rifle (M77 UL .257) and found that the 110 AB is what it likes the best. 43 gr H4350, best five group just a hair over .5". Anything close to Mule Deer's loads with 100 or 115 Partitions gives me sticky bolt lift. Going to try seating a little deeper with the PT loads as I'm pretty close to the lands and see if that helps with the bolt lift. Also picked up some 115 BT and 100 TTSX the other day to try as well. Factory 117 SST pattern like a shotgun!
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I have the same rifle (M77 UL .257) and found that the 110 AB is what it likes the best. 43 gr H4350, best five group just a hair over .5". Anything close to Mule Deer's loads with 100 or 115 Partitions gives me sticky bolt lift. Going to try seating a little deeper with the PT loads as I'm pretty close to the lands and see if that helps with the bolt lift. Also picked up some 115 BT and 100 TTSX the other day to try as well. Factory 117 SST pattern like a shotgun! Welcome to the forum. That's an impressive load you have with the 110 and 4350. Which Mule Deer load are you referring to?
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Don't you love it when you have a picky rifle? Think of all the shooting you wouldn't have done if things went right the first time you put together a bunch of loads. I'm still waiting for my dies and bullets to arrive. I am hoping for a good shooting load pushing the 117 Sierra Gameking or the 120 grain BTHP Gameking. Planning to stay inside 2600 to 2700 fps.
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I sent the serial number in to Ruger and they say the rifle was made for the European market or for export. So the 257 was popular in Europe? That doesn't seem like good information. Ruger used to, maybe still does, sell firearms through the base/post exchange stores on American bases/posts in Europe, so it is possible, but doesn't seem probable. I doubt that the 257 Roberts has ever been popular in Europe.
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I have the same rifle (M77 UL .257) and found that the 110 AB is what it likes the best. 43 gr H4350, best five group just a hair over .5". Anything close to Mule Deer's loads with 100 or 115 Partitions gives me sticky bolt lift. Going to try seating a little deeper with the PT loads as I'm pretty close to the lands and see if that helps with the bolt lift. Also picked up some 115 BT and 100 TTSX the other day to try as well. Factory 117 SST pattern like a shotgun! Welcome to the forum. That's an impressive load you have with the 110 and 4350. Which Mule Deer load are you referring to? His favorites, 100 gr with 46 gr 4350 and 115 gr with 43 gr 4350. My bad on the original quote I'm using IMR 4350 in my Roberts and H in my 7X57.
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Don't you love it when you have a picky rifle? Think of all the shooting you wouldn't have done if things went right the first time you put together a bunch of loads. I'm still waiting for my dies and bullets to arrive. I am hoping for a good shooting load pushing the 117 Sierra Gameking or the 120 grain BTHP Gameking. Planning to stay inside 2600 to 2700 fps. Mine likes 42.5 gr. H4350 with the Sierra 117gr pro hunter, Remington brass, CCI200s. Groups 1.5” at 200, three shots. 2725 FPS on average. It’s literally the only load I’ve found that this gun will shoot, so I’m done looking for loads. Old70
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I sent the serial number in to Ruger and they say the rifle was made for the European market or for export. So the 257 was popular in Europe? That doesn't seem like good information. Ruger used to, maybe still does, sell firearms through the base/post exchange stores on American bases/posts in Europe, so it is possible, but doesn't seem probable. I doubt that the 257 Roberts has ever been popular in Europe. The rifle was built in SouthPort, Conneticut plant and this is supposed to be where the export rifles were built. However the lady I spoke to was a bit hard to follow.
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I have recently gotten my new Ruger Hawkeye, in .257, going at the range. It shoots the Superformence 117 gain SST pretty poorly. I have shot one group of 100 grain Accubonds through it, and came up with a 1 3/8" group. I expect the groups to improve as I work with it more. This rifle came well built and finished. I think I'm gonna like it!
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