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338 Winchester mag 250 Accubonds

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What was your load and impact velocity on those?

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The load is

Nosler brass
Federal 215 M primer
69.5 gr of H 4831 sc the most accurate of all the powder charges in my rifle

Impact velocity would be high. The one on the left was from 100yds hit a little too far forward in the front shoulder as it was running thru the timber.
The one the right was 20yds or so as it was coming at me.

Bullets were recovered from a bull moose my neighbor wounded in the a.m. He asked me to help find him in the afternoon. Well I found him alright nearly got run over.

Should add on another moose hit right behind the shoulder without hitting bone that load was a complete pass thru. The shot was easily under 100yds.




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In time.....there will be some jackass along to tell you of your bullet failure


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Set them on the table and then photograph them


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Look similar to all the Accubonds I ever found...


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Yep, those are text book Accubond recoveries.


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Looking good to me as well...


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I've gotten used to seeing AB's look like that too, which is why I love 'em. Congrats on the moose.


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I knew JG had a pocket full of them. powdr

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Yep, those are some nice looking bullets.
Congrats on helping out with that moose. I hope he makes for good table fare.


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Bullets taken from a dead moose?

Obvious bullet failure. Just ask the moose. <G>


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How was the weight retention? Those look like the heavy jacket type Accubond and I would bet 1/3 or less weight loss. I think MD weighed just the jackets alone and they were 2/3 of the total. This may have been for the heavy BT but I would assume the same for the Accubonds.

I have had Moose run me off a trail before. It sort of gets your attention.


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
I've gotten used to seeing AB's look like that too, which is why I love 'em. Congrats on the moose.


And you mostly shoot little stuff, no?

That is a very long way from what I want to find in any animal...

In fairness I did recover an X this year for the first time. It was in a moose and it was a little heavy for caliber, a little slow for caliber, and a TSX.

It also went through a hell of a lot more moose than these examples... and it only took one...

I have decided to start looking at the edges of bullet performance rather than the middle because the middle is so reliable. I am also trying to figure out how so many can have experiences so completely out of sync with my mine. Mostly, I still doubt a large percentage of the "I have never..." crowd...


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Originally Posted by bwinters
Bullets taken from a dead moose?

Obvious bullet failure. Just ask the moose. <G>


Funny, I bet I have asked more moose than everybody else on this thread combined... and then asked more than that again... but what do I know? I started shooting moose with a 22lr in the mid '60s. And I listened to my father and believed a Speer was as good as any other bullet for decades. And I have also shot them with Sierras, Noslers, Hornadays, hard-cast, and Brenneke...

For the last number of years I have been using a plain old 30-06 with 165gr TTSX.

And I have used .22, .243, .270, 7mm, 308, 319, 35, and 375 bullets in them.

And hunters I guided added .338 and .416 to the calibers and Bitterroots, A-Frames to the makers.

And I have butchered many literal tons of them and observed the differences in meat loss...

So, go ahead with your wise-cracks, but realize your finger-pointing is working in two directions.


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Originally Posted by tedthorn
In time.....there will be some jackass along to tell you of your bullet failure


Lol. Prophetic.

I do believe ya walked right into that one, SD!


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by JGRaider
I've gotten used to seeing AB's look like that too, which is why I love 'em. Congrats on the moose.


And you mostly shoot little stuff, no?

That is a very long way from what I want to find in any animal...

In fairness I did recover an X this year for the first time. It was in a moose and it was a little heavy for caliber, a little slow for caliber, and a TSX.

It also went through a hell of a lot more moose than these examples... and it only took one...

I have decided to start looking at the edges of bullet performance rather than the middle because the middle is so reliable. I am also trying to figure out how so many can have experiences so completely out of sync with my mine. Mostly, I still doubt a large percentage of the "I have never..." crowd...



Yeah, but you're the same guy who said any bullet that didn't exit was a failure IIIRC, which is a weak argument no matter what sized animal you're shooting.

Mostly little stuff for me, except for about 30 head of African game up to and including kudu, zebra, and blue wildebeest.


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer


And you mostly shoot little stuff, no?

That is a very long way from what I want to find in any animal...

In fairness I did recover an X this year for the first time. It was in a moose and it was a little heavy for caliber, a little slow for caliber, and a TSX.

It also went through a hell of a lot more moose than these examples... and it only took one...

I have decided to start looking at the edges of bullet performance rather than the middle because the middle is so reliable. I am also trying to figure out how so many can have experiences so completely out of sync with my mine. Mostly, I still doubt a large percentage of the "I have never..." crowd...


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In time.....there will be some jackass along to tell you of your bullet failure




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