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DMc : )
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DMc and others are absolutely on the right track with the 1100 28 ga as far as recoil goes. I don't see them as being super light by today's standards. Daughter and SIL both shoot Benelli Legacys at about five pounds for quail, dove and informal trap. The only load they buy is the 3/4 oz. I don't see any great reduction in recoil over a 20 with 7/8 oz target loads. My Benelli Montefeltro 24" weighs well under six and my old Superposed 20 is not much over six. It seems to me that I can get the recoil down to 28 ga level for dove without investing in a new shotgun. The weight is not the problem for me. I can no longer follow the dogs or chase quail at eighty and with health issues. Of the two, soft recoil is paramount. I'm on blood thinners and heavy target loads out of my twenties leave me bruised.
For the last many years I have used heavy trap loads when I use my several 12 ga guns. Another answer for me may be light loaded 12s out of my Beretta 787. Until someone on this forum put a bug in my ear, I did not realize that 7/8 oz and 24 gram loads even existed. I intend to try a box or two of those next season.
I have the whole rap beat with a 42 Winchester .410. It is indeed a fun dove gun, but opening day (or two), before the doves get wary is about all I get out of it. Out to twenty yards or so, I do about as well with it as I do with the twenty, but forget shots much past twenty five yards.
When you find it, let us know.
Jack
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Know what? Even though it is neither the lightest or softest, that new Ithica 37 28 ga looks to be a honey.....
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I have enjoyed my Franchi 48AL 20ga. that I've had for the last 25 years. I have never weighed it but it has never seem heavy at all. Easy and comfortable to shoot too.
I have one that I love too. Bought it off a rabbit hunter many years ago. Might weigh 5 lbs. I take it into a timber hole for ducks a few times every year. But that SOB kicks worse than any 12 ga I've ever shot. Holy smokes, it'll wear your shoulder out.
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Pop guns of a different color... Man, it's tough getting all 3 together at the same time, but #3 favors a pump, kinda like her Daddy. DMc : ) PS: I guess why I favor Remington's is because of all the aftermarket goodies out there. And BTW, can you name any other company that's done so much for Sportsmen?
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"...This puppy (1931 Remington 17) cost all of $395 back in February 2017..."
I like that puppy and I think worth every cent of that. I have an old four digit S/N Model 17, kinda beat up, but very light and a good pointer. I do place a LimbSaver slip-on pad on it, it does have a bit of a snappy recoil.
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BTW, my Beretta is a 687, not a 787 (typo). I know no wher the edit button went?
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...as long as it has a 3" chamber. Love this shotgun! DMc : )
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...as long as it has a 3" chamber. Love this shotgun! DMc : ) And they just give them away...
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...as long as it has a 3" chamber. Love this shotgun! DMc : ) And they just give them away... My old man has one for sale...
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More reading says that the 26 gram/980fps 12 ga load may not set the inertia trigger. Anyone use these in a 686 or 687 Beretta O/U? Same question with the 24 gram/1350 fps loads?
Jack
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I have a Benelli Legacy 28 ga., that weighs in a bit under 5 lbs. It is a real joy to hunt with!
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Beretta A400 with kick-off. The gas guns will spread the recoil out for you, better then any of the recoil run guns. About this time last year I bought a Beretta a400 12ga w/ko and an a400 28ga. I can shoot sporting clays all day with the 12ga with no ill effects from recoil. It is also very light. The 28 was built for hours of bird hunting and is extremely light weight.
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Bighorn, oldest daughter and husband shoot nothing else for dove and quail. I have used theirs at informal clay trap practice. Nice. Since I can't follow the dogs very far anymore, I'm still considering the Ithica 37. It is a little heavier and may swing a bit better. I would also consider an older 870 if I run across one.
Jack
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I have a Benelli Legacy 28 ga., that weighs in a bit under 5 lbs. It is a real joy to hunt with! That would be tough to beat.
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