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Thanks pappy , never messed with the 338 fed , no dies , brass , data...........actually lousy reasons for a gun looney .
Bottom line really like the 358 and prefer the 1885 over the number one , don't get me wrong , I was shooting bug eye groups with no. 1 in 223 this afternoon but as far a a walkabout rifle the short version 45/70 I have is better and I hope to duplicate that with the 24" low wall .
Also all I need is the donor , it will then go post haste to JES Reboring , Jesse will turn that around in a couple weeks . His work is excellent and quick.
If it runs true to form I already have tried and true loads 200g & 225 g nosler and Speer bullets over TAC .
I have roughly 60 days .
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I would like to see a Winchester 1885 Trapper 45-70 with a 28 inch barrel.
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That should be pretty simple, starting with one of the bargain Trappers from CDNN. I thought that the short, round barrel is what makes it a Trapper.
I'd like a 22 inch, or so .38/55 myself. 16" is just too short. They do have some .405s with 22" octagonal barrels that could be loaded down to .40/72 levels or so. Having owned one before (.45/70), that crescent buttplate scares me. My little .44 has one, but that's a whole 'nother world power-wise.
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I could like a modern Low Wall in .30-30. That would be a slick rifle. I could also like a #1A in .35 Rem, which would also be a slick rifle
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Yup.
Don't know why they went with the High Walls for the Traditional Hunters in .30/30 and .38/55 when the LW action handles the hot .308-based rounds, and a Low Wall could be so much handier.
You may remember the high-class Low Wall .257 built by our top local gunsmith John Meyers, of Boyce, VA. Octagonal to round barrel with a wedding ring, and glorious wood. Someone here posted pictures a few years ago. If I were younger, I might go for something like that, but I'd likely be dead or at least out of the game by the time it was done.
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Dream is getting closer to reality , purchased a donor 1885 in 243 today .
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I'm a slow learner. I think I recall owning five, maybe six Ruger No. 1 rifles. Try as I may, I can't get a 4" ER scope to work for me, even with extension rings. Closest I come is with a Leupold 3.5-10 (non AO, a little more room between the bells) as long as the power ring doesn't go past 5X. The A0 does not work.
I have had much better results scoping the Browning 1885. I would like a .38-55. Looks like I'm going to have to look to Italy for that, but I really prefer the shotgun butt.
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I pondered scope choice long and hard after buying my No.1V. The VX-3.5-10 works well down low, and okay at 10x if I crawl a bit. I might try the new Tract on it after I finish dinking around with the rifle it's on, though the last thing the Ruger needs is another 8oz of weight.
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This thread almost caused me to make a big mistake. I got out my No.1 and my CZ 527 and laid them back to back to see if swapping the 3.5-10 on the Ruger for the 3-12 Tract would work. Was about ready to do it when I decided to check without the lens covers. Big difference! Would have left me crawling the stock all the time on the single shot. The CZ would have been fine, and a half pound lighter. That one may be getting a fixed 6 at some point.
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I would like to see a Winchester 1885 Trapper 45-70 with a 28 inch barrel. Lipsey did this in a 26" a couple years ago. I got one and really like that configuration. I would not expect to see that repeated for a while. There was a lyman special quite a few years back. Way back. That included an old style scope. Not likely to be offered again either. There is Gun Broker where anything No1 can be found. I am waiting for something that starts with a 5 and has a rim. Edit: I realize now you said 1885. That was also offered in 45/70 with a medium wt 28" barrel. Or check out Buds, that could meet your specs. https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/719011654Here is another one, NEW different butt plate, http://www.gunbroker.com/item/700953204No one really has to look very hard for 45/70. Now it got to be 358 and 38/55 won t do and has to be certain barrel and action .... figure the odds.
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About seven years or so ago I had a Browning/Winchester 1885 Highwall short hunter in 38/55. I'm thinking it had a 22" octagon barrel that had a true buckhorn rear sight, a brass bead front sight and a folding tang sight that was quite nice. It shot very well with both jacketed and cast bullets. I know it's not a 358Win. But it would handle the same critters quite well. I am a .358 bore fan though I only have five of them presently. Two of those are in 358 Winchester and one runs a close second place to my favorite. I have a 1977 Marlin 336 in 35 Remington that is called my favorite but I've killed more deer with my BLR-81 in 358 (steel receiver). I bought a Remington 7600 carbine several years that were made as a limited run for Grice's Sporting Goods. I toyed with the idea of dropping a chamber reamer in to make a 358 out of it but I sold it for what I had in it. Two years ago I got the itch for a 35 Whelen and since my first centerfire rifle was a Remington 7600 I found one of those out of the late 1980s or early '90's. All of this to say that I am sold on the .35 caliber and if it is a 358 Winchester,q I know it will handle almost any hunting I could ever find myself in from the muzzle to 250 yds. To quote a gentleman from another forum, " thump something with a 35 and it stays thumped. "
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Take my word for it. That 1885 with the traditional butt plate is a #%^*+ . Mine shot well, but the only thing I ever shot in .45-70 that was worse recoil wise, was a Ruger #3. Ouch!
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Take my word for it. That 1885 with the traditional butt plate is a #%^*+ . Mine shot well, but the only thing I ever shot in .45-70 that was worse recoil wise, was a Ruger #3. Ouch!
Jack Had both of those, briefly, so I can sympathize. Possibly the only thing worse I've experienced was an Ithaca Supersingle slug gun, apparently so named because it slugged the bejabbers out of anyone that shot it.
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No , it was not a dream .
Rifle in hand and it shows promise on paper , presently breaking in barrel nosler style shooting and cleaning .
Deer season opens this week , mounted a 2x7 VXR Firedot , working a load of TAC behind a 225 nosler partition .
Keep fingers crossed.
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Good for you. It's amazing to me that you got all that put together in such short order. Last 'smith job I commissioned took about three months; to get one hole drilled in a receiver.
All of us naysayers would like pictures when you get a chance.
Watch that lever under recoil!
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Pappy know exactly what your talking about but that does not apply to JES Rebore , excellent work , excellent service , that combined with a local shop smith who installed the pad and rigged the new scope in a three day turnaround !
First week of rifle season starts Saturday , will try to get some more pictures , may need some assistance getting on the campfire though , usually have a sie of file issue .
Recoil is solid but a limb saver pad takes the bite , at game you would never notice .
TAC powder with the 225 partition and my CHRONY is telling me a flat 2400 fops , 50 yard groups are ragged holes.
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