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What do I look for when scouting? Scat, tracks in the road?
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Sorry I upset the campfire.
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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All of the above and check dry creek beds for tracks, listen for howling at night, ask land owners if private.
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Sorry I upset the campfire. No one is upset. Just when you post your own personal philosophy on any thing on the 'fire be prepared that many may disagree with you. No one flamed you, called you names, swore at you,...etc. Try saying that 400 yd shots on big game should not be taken on the long range forum. Ouch.
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What caliber of rifle is best? I have a .223 and a 22 mag. Any suggestions on calls? I have seen some electronic calls, I think they were called fox something.... Is early morning the best time, or mid day?
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The e-caller you are referring to is the FoxPro brand. They are considered the best by most. I have one a very old one but still works fine and produces good sound. The 223 is a great over all calling round. If your shots are routinely over 300yds or in high winds then a 22-250, 6mm (243) or even more powerful rounds such as 25-06 or even 257 Roy may be an advantage. In a pinch any rifle in the closet can be used. I would limit the 22mag to close in shots in places where noise may be a problem. I sometimes carry downloaded 223 50 gr ammo (50gr at 2200 fps) at a little over 22 mag velocities for opportunities at small game or need for a quieter shot.
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I've been thinking about trying my hand at coyote calling and predator hunting. I hear that it's really easy. Any tips for a newbie? Find lots of spots and call them. It's the only way to really learn and get "good." When you first start out there is a lot of luck involved and after you kill 40 there is still a lot of luck involved. But until you experience those few lucky times you won't really ever learn anything. Have a howler, have a wabbit distress and get a bulb squeaker. Scouting isn't a bad idea but just because there is no dog sign doesn't mean you can't chance into a dog. Stop and take 10-15 minutes to call it anyway. If you think you're making the right sound, you are. Just keep swinging. .223 is a great round to use. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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What caliber of rifle is best? I have a .223 and a 22 mag. Any suggestions on calls? I have seen some electronic calls, I think they were called fox something.... Is early morning the best time, or mid day? You never know. I've found that full moons results in poor calling and dark moons tend to result in better calling. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I've been thinking about trying my hand at coyote calling and predator hunting. I hear that it's really easy. Any tips for a newbie? Find lots of spots and call them. It's the only way to really learn and get "good." When you first start out there is a lot of luck involved and after you kill 40 there is still a lot of luck involved. But until you experience those few lucky times you won't really ever learn anything. Have a howler, have a wabbit distress and get a bulb squeaker. Scouting isn't a bad idea but just because there is no dog sign doesn't mean you can't chance into a dog. Stop and take 10-15 minutes to call it anyway. If you think you're making the right sound, you are. Just keep swinging. .223 is a great round to use. Travis The only thing easier is spotting elk...
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Those cows are clearly in the way. That is a clever disguise by those elk if they are elk at all. They seem to be bovine in nature...
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I guess it depends on one's definition of success.
If the idea is to get a coyote to come to the call without any idea of caution...then yes. I agree.
If one stops at 330 yards and sits down....said coyote might just think he is out of rifle range.
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Those cows are clearly in the way. That is a clever disguise by those elk if they are elk at all. They seem to be bovine in nature... Travis has the same visual impairment, there were around 100 elk there...
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Is that why people shoot my cows?
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Those cows are clearly in the way. That is a clever disguise by those elk if they are elk at all. They seem to be bovine in nature... One small mix up and he never lets me hear the end of it. Travis PS-Don't mention this incident to Jim. Thanks.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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That bear is kind of small isn't it?
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I feel like I have to try and get the point across that I seem to have failed misserably at the first time.
When I'm calling coyotes and I have one hang up at 400 yards, I think what did I do wrong and it is a much lower percentage shot than having him at 100 yards. What can I do to correct it, I know how he is going to react when he hears the caller, he isn't affraid of the sound just the situation. I have the option of trying the shot or coming back and changing the situation to my advantage, I opt to come back, I learn a lot everytime I get to out smart a coyote. So for me a 400 yard CALLED coyote is a failed stand.
A story about a farmer in Neceda, WI back in the 1950's they had special archery deer season on the refuge and archers from all over would be there. One of the local farmers painted a bullseye on the side of his mule, his comment, "If they are dumb enought to shoot at a mule the odds of them hitting the bullseye are pretty slim". I will say that I heard the story second hand at the Alexandrian Bar in town.
Now my ex father in law was working a check station in SE MN when a hunter pulled in with a Brown Swiss calf tied to the hood.
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After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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What are you.... a f’n Park Ranger now?
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