Harrel's other video comparing the .357 Sig to the .40 S&W is also an eye opener. I don't need another handgun, but I am going to look for a .357 Sig to round out my carry choices.
No surprise. The concept of the .357 Sig is that it roughly duplicates the performance of the best self-defense .357 Magnum round, the JHP 125 grain, which has been known for a long time to have the best reputation as a man stopper.
Yeah, that Harrell fellow makes some useful videos.
He seems to think the .40 S&W is significantly better for defense than the 9mm, though, all factors considered.
PS When my nephew started as a police officer, he was issued the .40 S&W chambered Glock, but has recently been told that his department is switching to the Model 17.
he is with the city of phoenix,isn't he? I have to snicker a little at the above, not your nephew, but it reminds me of something. many years ago, probably early 80's one of phoenix's finest got into a disagreement in a shopping center near my house, and emptied a whole mag i think out of a 17 at a misunderstood individual. I don't think he hit him, or if he did it wasn't much. They probably need the extended magazines. Just kidding. i carried a 23 for years, then switched to a baby glock in .357sig, but have also 40 and 9mm barrels for it. with premium ammo i have no issue with 9mm I had a 17 in the safe for years never shot it, it was one of the first batch in the country with austrian marks on it. finally broke down and shot it last year, great combination of low weight and firepower and controllibility. I just got those underwood rounds delivered. That is an impressive combination in a 17.
i should add i added the .357sig when they first came out with it. I carried a model 19 for years, only limitation was the six rounds. that baby glock model 33 can also handle one of the larger magazines. so try 14 rounds of the same as a 357mag, mighty fine. one great thing i found out is at distance no worries about holdover. You point it, thats where the bullet is gonna hit.
I briefly owned a handgun in .357 Sig. It was my regular carry gun for a few months, to a year. It was a compact Sig single stack double action, Model P239. Decided I didn't like a traditional double action auto and sold it. This was back in the 1990s.
This is why if I was back in LE I would want a .357 SIG....no bad rounds...
Bob
i watched the whole video, very good. underwood was on the top for sure. that gold dot is one of my favorite bullets anyway, and that in the sig is certainly giving you speedy gonzales vs. a 9mm. what wa kind of interesting to me per the marked boxes, the 10mm 140gr round was around 1500fps, and the 357 140gr round about the same. not that it means anything. But that underwood sig round is beating the 357magnum. along with the capability of a large cap mag.
This is why if I was back in LE I would want a .357 SIG....no bad rounds...
Bob
One of the few decisions that I disagreed with my "new" Boss on........I wasn't in favor of the .357 behind!
�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
That's getting into PDW country right there, from a pistol you can hide under a T shirt.
this stuff kind of reminds me of a few years ago when i was screwing around with a tok. in 7.62x25. Light bullet but fast. it penetrated the steel lid of a 50gallong drum, penetrated the air tank for a roofing air gun, and bulged the other side. friend of mine in iraq was assigned to the iraqi police. We shipped them a bunch of 9mm glocks which they sold in the black market and went back to their tok's preferring that round which penetrated car doors quite aedequately. Russians seemed to like it in WWII too.
I briefly owned a handgun in .357 Sig. It was my regular carry gun for a few months, to a year. It was a compact Sig single stack double action, Model P239. Decided I didn't like a traditional double action auto and sold it. This was back in the 1990s.
When I'm not packing a 1911 in a 45acp single stack version, or a Glock 43 in 9mm, which is usually when I'm running errands while in town, unless I'm going to the big city like Austin, San Antonio, Dallas or Houston, where there is a possibility of encountering multiple bad guys or Gang Bangers, I'm then toting my GLOCK 32 in .357 Sig with 13 rounds plus 1 in the chamber, in a Galco King Tuk IWB Holster and two spare 15 round mags for the Glock 31. It's loaded with the Speer Gold Dot 125 gr HP load at 1350 fps. It's the same round our Texas State Troopers carry, and has been proven to easily penetrate car doors and auto glass in numerous shootouts that they have used it in.
When I'm packing a 1911 around town, or the Glock 43 in 9mm on my person, the Glock 32 in .357 Sig is always in easy reach in the console of my truck. I've killed a truck load of hogs with it at the Ranch and also taken a few deer and numerous varmints with it too.
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I think the cost of the ammo was the major reason some agencies are turning away from the Sig. Thanks obammy, you f'ed up something else.
If the the cost of 357 sig ammunition and 9 mm was the same, I believe there would be a lot more guys carrying the Sig.
Not even something that logical in 'our' case. The local indoor range doesn't allow the .357 Sig........too hot, beats up their traps.
Yep........my 'guys' lost the round that BEATS UP METAL so we could use the indoor range more often.
Some days I just shake my head!
�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
