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Charter Arms to offer 45 Colt & 41 Mag , built on their XL Frame (45acp)
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Charter Arms to offer 45 Colt & 41 Mag , built on their XL Frame (45acp)
Sounds like a couple of thumpers Already on their website. Cool. Link
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Oh, wait, that's the ACP. I guess they don't have the .45 Colt up yet.
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Oh, wait, that's the ACP. I guess they don't have the .45 Colt up yet. Thanks for posting this TRH. I was about to spring for the ACP but I reckon I'll wait for the LC version now,
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45acp has been out for awhile .. Year or so
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Oh, wait, that's the ACP. I guess they don't have the .45 Colt up yet. Thanks for posting this TRH. I was about to spring for the ACP but I reckon I'll wait for the LC version now, I think the .45 LC is on a larger frame. Still pretty cool.
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Personally, I'd rather have the smaller frame .44 Special Bulldog, which I do. There's not a whole lot the .45 LC can do (short of Magnumizing it) that a .44 Special can't.
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Personally, I'd rather have the smaller frame .44 Special Bulldog, which I do. There's not a whole lot the .45 LC can do (short of Magnumizing it) that a .44 Special can't. The 44 Bulldog is no slouch. Years ago, some of us were running the 240 SWC's from them around 800 fps. You could tell when they went off. Charter's 45 ACP has a YUGE assortment of proven defensive ammo available. I mentioned the 45 LC because I own several and there's always at least a 3# coffee can of 45LC 255 RNFP reloads on hand here. Having a snub in that caliber would simplify feeding it.
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Is this the guessing thread?
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Personally, I'd rather have the smaller frame .44 Special Bulldog, which I do. There's not a whole lot the .45 LC can do (short of Magnumizing it) that a .44 Special can't. The 44 Bulldog is no slouch. Years ago, some of us were running the 240 SWC's from them around 800 fps. You could tell when they went off. Charter's 45 ACP has a YUGE assortment of proven defensive ammo available. I mentioned the 45 LC because I own several and there's always at least a 3# coffee can of 45LC 255 RNFP reloads on hand here. Having a snub in that caliber would simplify feeding it. Yeah, there's not nearly as much available for the .44 Special as for .45 ACP. Likely also the case for .45 LC.
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Personally, I'd rather have the smaller frame .44 Special Bulldog, which I do. There's not a whole lot the .45 LC can do (short of Magnumizing it) that a .44 Special can't. I agree. For what you get out of most of the 44 specials, the Bulldog works fine. IF you need to bump it up some, like the Buffalo Bore 44 Special +P the C/A won't stand up to it, according to Buffalo Bore. I don't know if that's for one cylinder full or for full time shooting. But if I want to bump it up some I've got a Taurus 431 and a Ruger GP 100 44 special. I like carrying around the lighter Bulldog to the others and even at 800 fps a 240 grain bullet is going to cause something to leak. I think the lighter 44 specials like the Bulldog and I've got the new stainless one and an older blue one 3" barrel, they worked pretty well for David Berkowitz for personal protection, though that's not what he used it for. You are loosing cylinder thickness or have to move up to a heavier gun in a 45 Colt. If I'm going to do that I'll just pack a single action Ruger. They are a find woods gun.
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Personally, I'd rather have the smaller frame .44 Special Bulldog, which I do. There's not a whole lot the .45 LC can do (short of Magnumizing it) that a .44 Special can't. I agree. For what you get out of most of the 44 specials, the Bulldog works fine. IF you need to bump it up some, like the Buffalo Bore 44 Special +P the C/A won't stand up to it, according to Buffalo Bore. I don't know if that's for one cylinder full or for full time shooting. But if I want to bump it up some I've got a Taurus 431 and a Ruger GP 100 44 special. I like carrying around the lighter Bulldog to the others and even at 800 fps a 240 grain bullet is going to cause something to leak. I think the lighter 44 specials like the Bulldog and I've got the new stainless one and an older blue one 3" barrel, they worked pretty well for David Berkowitz for personal protection, though that's not what he used it for. You are loosing cylinder thickness or have to move up to a heavier gun in a 45 Colt. If I'm going to do that I'll just pack a single action Ruger. They are a find woods gun. Me too. I prefer the smaller framed Bulldog in .44 special. Mine stays loaded with a 260 gr LBT WFN hard cast bullet at 850 fps. If I was gonna carry HP ammo, I'd use the factory Speer Blazer with the 200 gr JHP loading.
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I'll reserve judgment until I shoot the 45 Colt model. If the have a snub with enough meat in the cylinder for 45 ACP, it'll be fine for 45 Colt. My basic 45 Colt load will rival that 44 260 gr LBT WFN w/o breaking a sweat.
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Just got off the phone with Charter Arms and was told "next year" on the 45 Colt snub. I didn't ask but I presume we won't see them 41 mag until then either.
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Just got off the phone with Charter Arms and was told "next year" on the 45 Colt snub. I didn't ask but I presume we won't see them 41 mag until then either. The large frame snub nose in .45 LC sounds interesting.
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Just got off the phone with Charter Arms and was told "next year" on the 45 Colt snub. I didn't ask but I presume we won't see them 41 mag until then either. Great! I'll have to have one of those!
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Who would have ever thought that the 45 Colt cartridge, introduced in 1873 with the release of the Colt SAA Revolver would still be a very popular hunting & defense round 144 years later!
And an even more popular handgun defensive round, the 45 acp cartridge introduced in 1910 for use in John Brownings's Classic 1911, would still be in use and thriving 107 years later. And that both of those two handguns are still in production and going strong in the same basic versions with very little changes as to the original design.
And both of those two handguns are still one of my most favored for hunting and defensive purposes.
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The very things that makes a 45 Long Colt supposedly obsolete also make it versatile. It's large case, designed for a big dose of black powder, allows ample room for slow-burning Smokeless in guns that will handle such loads; they also keep pressure down on moderate loads. The length of the cartridge itself makes it amenable to use in lever action rifles. Its large case & bore also provide of room for bullets well over 300 grains with a powder charge that will push them at any sane velocity for the firearm you are using.
The 45 ACP offers all the defensive capability necessary for a carry gun. But for those that need or want it the 45 Long Colt officers a degree of Versatility not found elsewhere.
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