Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire a new religious thread, because they just keep on coming.

Gus,a while back a fellow that had some common sense said something like this:Religion is like lifts in your shoes,what works for me might not work for you.
Find your own lift and go with it.

It will be right for you.
I know that when i die and i will ,i will no longer feel pain.

That is what works for me.
Not that i am in any hurry to get there.
Have a good night.

This is good stuff. Answers most of your questions.

kd

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news...es-confirm-real-presence-of-jesus-christ

thank you for going to the trouble and effort of sharing. i do love to hear of reports related to confirmed 'miracles" from time to time.

have heard of a true resurrection of the dead occurring in a church basement out in california. probably on the internet given a proper search.

it was several years ago, but what has time got to do with anything?

i wish we could hear of a current day miracle every sunday from church.

The sons of God were only people who believed God? They weren't Angels ie the Watchers? And the daughters of men were not God's children? I certainly wouldn't think that if they were not God's children that God would even give a damn what they did, but, it appears God was quite upset over the whole charade. And especially with the offspring, which brings it back to the question: what was the problem with sons of God doing what God did with Mary?

What do you mean? I assume Joseph and Mary had normal marital relations after the birth of Jesus.

I believe Roman Catholic Tradition claims that Mary remained chaste all her life and that what we suppose were the half brothers and sisters of Jesus were actually Joseph’s children from a former marriage. At least that’s what I’ve read.

Yet there is this: We aspire to please Him means this scripture is referring to Christians (believers), and does not refer to all men. The names of Christians are written in the Book of Life. They alone appear before the judgement throne of Christ.
2 Corinthians 5
9So we aspire to please Him, whether we are here in this body or away from it.10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive his due for the things done in the body, whether good or bad. 11Therefore, since we know what it means to fear the Lord, we try to persuade men. What we are is clear to God, and I hope it is clear to your conscience as well.…

Stop thinking like men.
Mary and Joseph were chaste their entire earthly life.
Mary exceptionally so was born without original sin because God wanted a pure vessel
for Jesus.
Through Mary, Jesus became "Son of Man" therefore entitling humankind to be called
"Children if God".
Through the Church and the Sacraments we can be "holy" because the Holy Spirit then
dwells within us.

Don’t look now, but your bullschidt detector is all out of whack.

Something I texted doesn't sit right with you?
Don't be afraid...spit it out...I'll try to be patient with you.

Also consider that in the early texts the words interpreted into "brother" etc. could also be translated as "kindred." Please don't make me search for a source on that, but I bet I could find one.

Oh, that wasn't too hard. First hit:
https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/kindred/

Have not read the whole thread...but when 24HCF get started on
some religious topic I am amazed at some of the things you believe or were
taught. Just amazed!

The Bible says that Joseph kept Mary a virgin UNTIL the child was born. That word 'until' is big. It puts a definite end to her virginity. Later there are numerous references to Jesus' brothers. The references are to his family brothers, not fellow believers.

I guess that took some wind out of some sails, or should i say sales.

Guys we get so distracted by the non-significant details that we lose sight of the eternal. God came down to earth, and taught us, and healed us, and loved us. He died (a terrible, painful, excruciating death) to pay the price for our wickedness. He alone could do that, because He alone was holy. What an incredible, beautiful, and amazing story. It's true, it really happened and it is the most significant thing that has ever occurred in the history of this world.

To God be the glory,

bludog

He died and then rose from the dead. Without that, his death doesn't count because we can all die. We can't rise again

Amen, brother. That's what sets Christianity apart from any other religion. He died, He arose, He sits at the right hand of God now, He lives and He will come again.

By Jack Zavada

The Judgment Seat of Christ is not judgment over a person's salvation. The Bible is clear that our salvation is by grace through faith in the sacrificial death of Christ on the cross, not through our works:

Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. (John 3:18, NIV)

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, (Romans 8:1, NIV)

For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more. (Hebrews 8:12, NIV)

At the Judgment Seat of Christ, only Christians will appear before Jesus, to be rewarded for their works done in his name while they were on earth. Any references to loss at this judgment concerns loss of rewards, not salvation. Salvation has already been settled through Jesus'redeeming work.

Doctrine - The Judgment of the Lost

Following the release of Satan after the thousand year reign of Christ (Revelation 20:7), Satan will deceive the
nations of the earth and gather them to battle against the saints and the beloved city, at which time Satan and his
army will be devoured by fire from heaven (Revelation 20:9). Following this, Satan will be thrown into the lake
of fire and brimstone (Matthew 25:41; Revelation 20:10) whereupon Christ, who is the judge of all men (John
5:22), will resurrect and judge the great and small at the Great White Throne judgment.
This resurrection of the unsaved dead to judgment will be a physical resurrection, whereupon receiving their
judgment (John 5:28-29), they will be committed to an eternal conscious punishment in the lake of fire
(Matthew 25:41; Revelation 20:11-15).

The Great White Throne Judgement is for those whos name is not in The Book of Life.,

And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire". Revelation 20:11-15 ESV