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All heads will bend and all knees will bow. Hicchup.

Praise the Lord. Thank you Father in Heaven for Jesus Christ who spotlessly died to be covered in our sins and washed those of us clean who believed on Him with His blood and that He arose on the third day and went to be at the right hand of the Father of us ALL and the Creator and who left the Holy Spirit to be a comfort to us until He returns. Amen.

So what ya drinking doc?

The truth would make you giddy too. Can you not perceive sarcasm? I would have spelled it out correctly for you but you have heard it properly before. Your problem is that you didnt learn it and you dont know it.

AS, a fool could see His words are true. Evil has become good and good, evil. Just another lucky guess, right?

Doc,

Great job hijacking your own thread.

AS, there were gasses floating in space and a spark made the universe, life, monkeys and you.

God made folks like you just to see who would stand up for Him. Just as He made Pharaoh stiff necked to show the world His power He made many like you. Just as He made Pharaoh think the pestilence that devoured his land and the plague that afflicted his people and the wine that changed his water and the death He visited on Pharaohs crew, He has chosen for you, who deny Him. You have no choice in the matter. As a subject of Satan you strive for Satans reward of eteranal damnation. Wear your reward proudly. You have earned it.

Good job demolishing the Christian hypothesis of Free Will.

Really?

This is what you believe?

Hahahaha. Tff.

The real philosophical question is, how did we get to page 56...?

Come on AS. You can do better than that. Show us a flick of the Pope telling us to worship the Church, or that anyone who deals with guns cant be a Christian, or that White Western Europeans need the fresh blood of moslems intermingling in the white women whos men have been emasculated by the church and western culture.

Come on. Give us sime real meat to chew on.

Much can be learned about theistic claims by studying the history of the religion making the theistic claims.

You have me confused with someone else. Just because I disagree with your theistic claims, that does not make me a Post-Modernist.

Listening to Hitchens is bliss...

Furthermore, the institution of marriage is a biblical institution and Governments have no business sticking it's collective nose in it, no popular vote or trendy ideal should be allowed to impact same, for as it is biblical it is solely in the domain of biblical organisation.

Any that sign up for marriage needs understand what it is, and if they do not agree then they and their ilk can piss off and indulge in some other pact.


Note that I do not refer to 'churches' as I believe they and their grubby politics are a large part of the problem, which is what you get in business.


Right or wrong these are my opinions.

Well,I don't have time this morning to address the whole issue Jaguartx brought up when he suggests God made Pharaoh choose not to let the Children of Israel go just so he could punish him for it. He also suggested Jesus healed the man at the pool and then threatened to make him worse if he sinned again.

That is simply not the nature of God!! It is a misunderstanding because of not understanding the original languages and religious tradition took over from there.

I'm headed out to our deer opener this morning and will try to address the question farther if possible. Until then I will say that if anyone is interested they can look at the original language and see an entirely different meaning. God didn't harden pharaoh in the manner suggested. It was more like the case where a mother would anger a child to farther wrath by telling him that he had to do something he didn't want to do,causing the child to throw a fit. The original languages bring it out.

Any time that there is an argument about homosexuality, and someone quotes Leviticus, as sure as the sun comes up every morning someone else will say that nowhere in the New Testament is homosexuality mentioned. The Bible consists of TWO parts.....the Old Testament, and the New Testament. I'm sure that everyone has their opinion on this, but I believe that in the OT we are being given the history of mankind, the laws that God expects us to live by, and being set up for the coming of Jesus Christ. The NT is about Jesus, his life and death, the promise fulfilled by God, and the works of those who followed Jesus. This is just my brief summary......but nowhere in the NT does Jesus, or anyone else for that matter, say that we are to forget about what was written in the OT, as those words no longer matter. Consequently, I think that the two go hand in hand, and one cannot stand alone without the other.

Now, even if I did not believe in what was written in the Bible, and believed that man was not created by a higher being, but came from a monkey, I still could not accept homosexuality or transgender. Why......it's simple.....we all live by the laws of nature one way or another, and being the animals we are, we live under that set of rules. There are NO homosexual or transgender animals.......period. They don't exist, because they can't exist. In order to insure the survival of the species, there are males and there are females, and they MUST mate with a member f the opposite sex, not a member of the same sex, in order to reproduce.......a process that is so simple that anyone should be able to understand it.

I am sure that God loves everyone that He has created, the drunkards, the thieves, the harlots, and even the queers and the trannies......but He is also very specific about what He says about certain behavior. His word is the final word as to who gets into his kingdom, not some council of churches, and He has spoken about homosexuality and transgender people. Their behavior excludes them from His kingdom.

Just trot out the 3 passages from the NT that I quoted earlier about homosexuality. The NT very much DOES condemn it.

This absolutely correct.