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Well thanks, but not necessary. Frankly I have a hard time believing anyone could shoot 100+ whitetails with any bullet and get zero pass-throughs. OK, I guess I just told you that for schits & giggles. Believe what you want, even better get off the couch & go shoot something yourself & make your own observations since you seem OK with calling me a liar for relaying my own.
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I could believe 0 out of 100 easily if the 140 BT went through the first/second generation jacket thickening process. I think it did as my initial experience with them was they were the same as the solid base as far as fragmenting. I tried to call Nosler tech services to find out but gave up after being on hold too long. Will try to Email for my own curiosity to get the history of the 140 BT.
Just this last Saturday I had a 95 gr. BT 6mm get stopped by a 165 lb. Buck. Performance was great but this bullet has a reputation for toughness and it din't make it to the far shoulder at about 75 yards so maybe too much velocity. The lungs were unrecognizable. I couldn't find the base of the bullet in the dark. A one time incident or the norm? Guess I will have to drop 99 more deer to tell with it.
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........you seem OK with calling me a liar for relaying my own. PS, don't take it personally, I'm not calling you a liar. If you read what I said, it was pretty general. It is hard to believe that zero out of a hundred+ passed through on something the size of a deer. Especially when other posters are saying they routinely get pass-throughs on shoulder shots.
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........you seem OK with calling me a liar for relaying my own. It is hard to believe that zero out of a hundred+ passed through on something the size of a deer. Especially when other posters are saying they routinely get pass-throughs on shoulder shots. Agreed...
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Ok, I'll tell you my experience with the 7mm 140 gr. Ballistic Tip. I have probably shot close to a hundred deer and a few antelope with them out of a .280 going close to 3100 fps. I can only recall one bullet that did not exit. A buck that was shot down through the shoulder and lodged against the skin in the ham. All others were mostly broadside shots and complete pass throughs. I have used them since they have been on the market and I did hear at one time that Nosler toughened them up. So that's my story.
Regards, John.
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I've lost count of the number of whitetails I've killed with the 140 BT out of a 7mm rem mag, well over 100 I'm sure. Out of those I can't remember ever having an exit hole. I don't believe that for one second. I have probably shot close to a hundred deer and a few antelope with them out of a .280 going close to 3100 fps. I can only recall one bullet that did not exit. That, I believe.
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You boys are rough. He didn't say that he didn't have an exit in 100 deer shot, he said he couldn't remember having one.
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Well, I said I found it hard to believe anyone with any bullet could shoot 100+ whitetails and not have a pass-through, and he thought I was calling him a liar.
So it's pretty clear what he meant.
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140 Ballistic tip. 7 mag. This am. Entrance and exit. 170 yards. I hit him a touch high. I think bullet went through. 125 lb pig
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I think bullet went through. Kinda hard to tell in that second photo.
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Poor old Leupold scope looks like it failed also.
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My sample size of four animals two cow elk, and two mule deer bucks shot at 100-250 yards, with 280 remington handloads. Three pass throughs, one off side shoulder shot didn't exit. No complaints from me.
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