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What to mix with ground venison? #12435323 12/01/17 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,555 SW PA B bobinpa OP Campfire Regular OP bobinpa Campfire Regular B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,555 SW PA Hi guys. In the past I've mixed pork with my ground deer meat and it has been good or maybe good enough...... so what else can I do? I've heard that I can also use beef fat, beef tallow or pork fat. I guess I am looking for a way to make my venison stick together without actually adding another meat to it. What do you guys suggest? Thanks in advance, Bob I sure could go for some $2.50/gal gas and a mean tweet! NRA Benefactor member, disgruntled. Life member: Firearms Owners Against Crime. Life member: GOA Member: RMEF TRUMP 2020

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12435490 12/01/17 Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 5,010 H Hogwild7 Campfire Tracker Hogwild7 Campfire Tracker H Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 5,010 I buy Rib racks for steaks and trim the fat off the outside to suit me . I freeze it until I work up a deer. Ribeye fat makes a good mix with ground venison.

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12435494 12/01/17 Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 217 SW Washington OdT Campfire Member OdT Campfire Member Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 217 SW Washington Bacon

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12435536 12/01/17 Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,412 Georgia B BlackHunter Campfire Regular BlackHunter Campfire Regular B Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,412 Georgia I prefer pork to beef so I use ground pork, pork fat, bacon or smoked jowl with my ground venison. SCI Life Member DAV Life Member NRA Life Member North American Hunt Club Life Member Your true character shows in your conduct You cannot solve a problem at the same level of awareness that created it - Einstein

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12435538 12/01/17 Joined: May 2003 Posts: 16,971 Eastern KS S Spotshooter Campfire Ranger Spotshooter Campfire Ranger S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 16,971 Eastern KS Go get stake trimmings from your butcher Spot shooter www.prairiefireprecision.com

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12436453 12/02/17 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,555 SW PA B bobinpa OP Campfire Regular OP bobinpa Campfire Regular B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,555 SW PA Thanks guys. I appreciate it. I sure could go for some $2.50/gal gas and a mean tweet! NRA Benefactor member, disgruntled. Life member: Firearms Owners Against Crime. Life member: GOA Member: RMEF TRUMP 2020

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12436502 12/02/17 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 3,254 Columbia, South Carolina S Sasha_and_Abby Campfire Tracker Sasha_and_Abby Campfire Tracker S Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 3,254 Columbia, South Carolina Beef trimmings from my local supermarket... free or cheap and works better than pork fat in my opinion. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die, I want to go where they went" Will Rogers

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12436689 12/02/17 Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,180 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn... ironbender Campfire Oracle ironbender Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,180 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn... For burgers, I like beef fat @ 10%. For sausage, pork fat @ 30%. We can get ~ 5 lb frozen bags of ground fat at a local groceteria. If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender

Re: What to mix with ground venison? ironbender #12436817 12/02/17 Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,311 Montana J Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,311 Montana Originally Posted by ironbender For burgers, I like beef fat @ 10%. For sausage, pork fat @ 30%. We can get ~ 5 lb frozen bags of ground fat at a local groceteria. Not pork meat, just pork fat? I am MAGA.

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12436827 12/02/17 Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,602 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas K kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana K Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,602 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas I take a box of bacon ends and grind it up and mix what i think I need in ground deer or elk. Make great burgers! Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester "Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored." WS

Re: What to mix with ground venison? kaywoodie #12436938 12/02/17 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 S Steelhead Campfire Oracle Steelhead Campfire Oracle S Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 Originally Posted by kaywoodie I take a box of bacon ends and grind it up and mix what i think I need in ground deer or elk. Make great burgers! That Beef fat has a higher 'melting' temp, I don't like sheit over cooked and I don't like balls of beef fat still hanging out in my burger "Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"

Re: What to mix with ground venison? Jim_Conrad #12437082 12/02/17 Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,180 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn... ironbender Campfire Oracle ironbender Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,180 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn... Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad Originally Posted by ironbender For burgers, I like beef fat @ 10%. For sausage, pork fat @ 30%. We can get ~ 5 lb frozen bags of ground fat at a local groceteria. Not pork meat, just pork fat? Yes. I find using straight fat it’s easier to calculate % without guessing. We’ve done sausage w bacon and/or shoulder and it seems less like sausage of whatever the game meat is. If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12437308 12/02/17 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,800 G gunswizard Campfire Ranger gunswizard Campfire Ranger G Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,800 I have used pork steak in the past, this year I made some venison sausage with mild Italian bulk sausage. I add teriyaki to the mix and smoke with alderwood for 3 hrs. finishing in the oven at 200 degrees for one hour.

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12437310 12/02/17 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 S Steelhead Campfire Oracle Steelhead Campfire Oracle S Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 Also, much easier to grind if it's half frozen, especially the fat. "Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12437503 12/02/17 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 571 Oklahoma L Lorin Campfire Regular Lorin Campfire Regular L Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 571 Oklahoma Im in the bacon camp as well. Buy a box of ends and pieces. Grind with the venison.

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12437704 12/02/17 Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 64 central Alabama C catdoctor Campfire Greenhorn catdoctor Campfire Greenhorn C Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 64 central Alabama I like to mix 70 percent deer to 30 percent smoked bacon end pieces.

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12437747 12/02/17 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,481 Flagstaff AZ huntinaz Campfire Tracker huntinaz Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,481 Flagstaff AZ I prefer beef fat for burger, not sure I have a preference for sausage. I generally mix 6-10% depending on how much fat I have and how fat assed I am at the time of butchering. Honestly 6-8% is just as good as 10% in my opinion. My dad disagrees with me. Our local grocers will cut and save beef or pork fat if you ask them too, usually. Sometimes they give it to me for free, sometimes it's like $0.25/lb.

Re: What to mix with ground venison? ironbender #12438153 12/02/17 Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,311 Montana J Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,311 Montana Originally Posted by ironbender Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad Originally Posted by ironbender For burgers, I like beef fat @ 10%. For sausage, pork fat @ 30%. We can get ~ 5 lb frozen bags of ground fat at a local groceteria. Not pork meat, just pork fat? Yes. I find using straight fat it’s easier to calculate % without guessing. We’ve done sausage w bacon and/or shoulder and it seems less like sausage of whatever the game meat is. I like that reasoning. I reckon a deer sausage ought to taste a bit like deer. Never did mind. Hell, I like mutton. I am MAGA.

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12438420 12/03/17 Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 67,696 N. Central Florida, and Miami Mannlicher Campfire Kahuna Mannlicher Campfire Kahuna Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 67,696 N. Central Florida, and Miami With the last deer I processed, I used beef fat. My son's restaurant buys a lot of beef, and trims the rounds. I get those trimmings and mix 20% in with the ground venison. Makes a great tasting burger that holds together on the grill. Last edited by Mannlicher; 12/03/17. Sam......

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12438512 12/03/17 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,569 grottoes ,virginia,usa srwshooter Campfire Outfitter srwshooter Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,569 grottoes ,virginia,usa beef fat,grind the fat as small as you like then mix it in the venison and grind. you will get a better mix and no more 'fat balls' then with all beef. 8lbs of meat 2lbs of fat local krogers sell beef fat Last edited by srwshooter; 12/03/17.

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12438935 12/03/17 Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,030 Alaska akjeff Campfire Tracker akjeff Campfire Tracker Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,030 Alaska I prefer beef/beef fat, as I don't want to have to cook the life out of a burger because of a need to bring it to pork temps. The point from a packer brisket is a great way to add fat to a batch of venison burger. Separate the point, trim off the hard fat/gristle, and then grind it with venison at about 5:1 ratio. Then smoke up the brisket flat. Jeff

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12438973 12/03/17 Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 20,204 T_Inman Campfire Ranger T_Inman Campfire Ranger Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 20,204 I use bacon for the fat too: 10% by weight or a bit more. What I have found to help keep the burger together is to grind it once with whatever plate you wish, and to double grind it with the finest plate you have. I like mine to come out almost as a paste. For whatever reason, I have found it holds together better. I don't think it helps to hold the meat together at all, but I do also add a bit of season salt, cheese and sometimes even Jalapeños into the grind.

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12439205 12/03/17 Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 21,774 Clinging to our God and Guns Dillonbuck Campfire Ranger Dillonbuck Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 21,774 Clinging to our God and Guns I mix enough 80/20 beef to get the fat where I want it. One third beef is close. This is my wife's absolute favorite burger. Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12439371 12/03/17 Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 4,396 Helena, MT J JGray Campfire Tracker JGray Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 4,396 Helena, MT That is my wife's preference as well. She buys 80/20 or 85/15 ground beef in bulk when it goes on sale and mixes it 50/50 with the venison.

Re: What to mix with ground venison? Steelhead #12441126 12/04/17 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 41,964 Huntn/Fishn Heaven-NW Ontario New_2_99s Campfire 'Bwana New_2_99s Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 41,964 Huntn/Fishn Heaven-NW Ontario Originally Posted by Steelhead Also, much easier to grind if it's half frozen, especially the fat. Yep, whatever you use, this is the best way to do it ! Paul. "Kids who grow up hunting, fishing & trapping, do not mug little old Ladies"

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12441163 12/04/17 Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,454 State of Jefferson T T_O_M Campfire Outfitter T_O_M Campfire Outfitter T Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,454 State of Jefferson Originally Posted by bobinpa Hi guys. In the past I've mixed pork with my ground deer meat and it has been good or maybe good enough...... so what else can I do? I've heard that I can also use beef fat, beef tallow or pork fat. I guess I am looking for a way to make my venison stick together without actually adding another meat to it. What do you guys suggest? Thanks in advance, Bob The only thing I want in my ground venison is ground venison. Anything else is blasphemy and a shooting offense. I don't understand why anyone would waste venison by adding pork, beef, or anything else to it. If I didn't like venison as God delivered it, I wouldn't shoot it. Tom Anyone who thinks there's two sides to everything hasn't met a M�bius strip. Here be dragons ...

Re: What to mix with ground venison? T_O_M #12444406 12/05/17 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,569 grottoes ,virginia,usa srwshooter Campfire Outfitter srwshooter Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,569 grottoes ,virginia,usa O Originally Posted by T_O_M Originally Posted by bobinpa Hi guys. In the past I've mixed pork with my ground deer meat and it has been good or maybe good enough...... so what else can I do? I've heard that I can also use beef fat, beef tallow or pork fat. I guess I am looking for a way to make my venison stick together without actually adding another meat to it. What do you guys suggest? Thanks in advance, Bob The only thing I want in my ground venison is ground venison. Anything else is blasphemy and a shooting offense. I don't understand why anyone would waste venison by adding pork, beef, or anything else to it. If I didn't like venison as God delivered it, I wouldn't shoot it. Tom Plain ground venison taste bad to me if you make burgers out of it plus it falls apart plain deer is fine if you making chili or tacos.

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12508553 12/31/17 Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 1,549 Mjduct Campfire Regular Mjduct Campfire Regular Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 1,549 Thats pretty good, best burgers I’ve made are 50/50 with sotore bought groud beef. If you are watching your cholesterol, oatmeal mixed into the 100% venison will help hold it together too. You can also pre make the patties, freeze them, and put them stright on the grill frozen. Helps them to hold together a little better.

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12508882 12/31/17 Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 8,736 San Joaquin Valley, Kalifornis... calikooknic Campfire Outfitter calikooknic Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 8,736 San Joaquin Valley, Kalifornis... Ten percent bacon bits and ends or 20 percent 80/20 burger. If intended only for burger patties you can add your seasoning salt of choice, cheese, and chile peppers. Sean

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12509056 12/31/17 Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 19,072 Colorado Springs, CO, USA S saddlesore Campfire Ranger saddlesore Campfire Ranger S Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 19,072 Colorado Springs, CO, USA I don't mix anything with my grind, elk, deer, or pronghorn. Wild game meat is the healthiest a person can eat. Why ruin it? Adding anything to it is like mixing great tasting whiskey and Coke. If you only flip you burgers once when on the grill, they won' fall apart If God wanted you to walk and carry things on your back, He would not have invented stirrups and pack saddles

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12511027 12/31/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,258 Colorado Springs, CO Prwlr Campfire Outfitter Prwlr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,258 Colorado Springs, CO Bacon ends for elk or deer burger. Ed A person who asks a question is a fool for 5 minutes the person who never asks is a fool forever. The worst slaves are those that put the chains on themselves.

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12513884 01/01/18 Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 2,224 Republica de Tejas E Edwin264 Campfire Regular Edwin264 Campfire Regular E Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 2,224 Republica de Tejas Ends and pieces bacon. I’ve used brisket before too.....back when brisket was cheap anyway.

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12514025 01/01/18 Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,234 Henderson, NV NVhntr Campfire Outfitter NVhntr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,234 Henderson, NV I usually add 5% clean white beef fat. My grocery butcher provides for free, coarse ground. Let's Go Brandon! FJB

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12521270 01/04/18 Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 160 Alabama Outbackman Campfire Member Outbackman Campfire Member Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 160 Alabama Bacon ends and pieces ground into the deer meat. I do about 20% bacon to deer and for ever 2 pounds i use dry onion soup mix powder packet. Makes a great grilled buirger and a fine hamber steak with gravy. Also have mixed ranch powder with the bacon deer mix. It’s pretty dang good. Proud supporter of the NRA.

Re: What to mix with ground venison? Hogwild7 #12535482 01/09/18 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 533 Utah H Hydrashocker Campfire Regular Hydrashocker Campfire Regular H Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 533 Utah Originally Posted by Hogwild7 I buy Rib racks for steaks and trim the fat off the outside to suit me . I freeze it until I work up a deer. Ribeye fat makes a good mix with ground venison. This is what I do as well. All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12535515 01/09/18 Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 17,777 Wyoming W WyoCoyoteHunter Campfire Ranger WyoCoyoteHunter Campfire Ranger W Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 17,777 Wyoming I must check this out.. Molon Labe

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12538744 01/10/18 Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,902 Upstate NY T troutfisher13111 Campfire Regular troutfisher13111 Campfire Regular T Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,902 Upstate NY I am in the don’t mix anything with my venison crowd. It works fine for everything except actual burgers, and then I add an egg to the meat to get it to stick together. Unless we are talking sausage, then I add one pound of organic pig fat per four pounds of venison.

Re: What to mix with ground venison? bobinpa #12590673 01/28/18 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,366 Central Calif. Coast 3 30Gibbs Campfire Tracker 30Gibbs Campfire Tracker 3 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,366 Central Calif. Coast Fat cap from a trimmed top block or any other beef fat. Grind mixture twice, wrap.