Home Forums Hunting & Shooting AR and Tactical Rifles Will the 224 Valkyrie go the same way as the Wssm?

You see these things but wonder will they be around in 5 years? I can see this with a lighter bonded or solid bullet as a great Deer cartridge.

https://federalpremium.com/224-valkyrie/

The reason that it probably will do well is because they aren't building it around light bullets. It's the AR15's Creedmoor.

And yet it could have been so much more, if just based on the Grendel case instead...

Federal wants the whole enchilada.....................($$$).

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JP Enterprises .224 Valkyrie Supermatch barrels will be available in January 2018 at a starting retail price of $569.

$569 is a bit much, hope someone else chambers for it.

Just call White Oak and get a 22/6.8 I think they make them or did?

Heck to be honest if its teh figures I saw earlier today, 90 at 2700.. then shoot a 223... 90s will hit 2700 no problem. They will not stablize in a 7 twist... needs 6.5 for the 223 in a 20 inch tube

That's been around for years (maybe not exactly) in the form of the 22 PDK, which while never factory loaded, doesn't see much use anymore partly due to brass quality back in the day. It's a good predator/varmint cartridge for the AR platform and provides a real performance gain over the .223. I've got a XTC space gun upper put together by WOA in 6mm PDK and it is very accurate and I've never had any issues other than not being happy with the quality of SSA brass. I like the sound of the 90gr .223 bullet, but would be surprised to see it in component form. If someone chambers it from the factory on a mid-priced platform it will probably survive but if the barrels aren't made available in the $200 range I can't see it holding factory support for very long.

Me too, $250 bucks a barrel is a good spot. I get a 90 grain 22 bullet, but for me a 100 grain fusion would be great. I don’t know if a 100 would be stable with a 1-7 but that is what JP is selling.

MV would be the only way a 100 grain would be stable since 90 jlks don't do it in 7 twist 223....

So what does the 224 Valkyrie do that the 22 grendel can’t? Hell those numbers are less then my 6 grendel gets and I don’t even push it that hard as I’m still burning up my Hornady brass and haven’t cracked into my lapua stash yet.

For one it can shoot factory ammo, never seen 22 grendel in the store. with Federal going all in this will probably be a successful chambering. I always roll my own but most want factory fodder.

As to the OP, The WSSM was a bad design from the start

100gr would probably be a real stretch. I'll wait for Brian Litz to do the real math but I have to expect that this new 90 Fusion hunting bullet is going to be a bit blunter and shorter than the current heavy .224 VLDs, so maybe it will work in a 7-8" twist? I know a friend of mine had a 22-250 with a 9" twist Blackstar barrel and it would hammer with 80gr Sierra MKs. Not a true VLD bullet but not a brick either.

80 smks were far from high BC compared to JLK 80s. At least on paper in matches there was a scoring ring difference if you missed the wind...

If blunter it may well stablize in a 7. I really doubt 8 unless the speeds get much higher than the 2700 I saw. Again 2700 and a 90 works from a 223... so one would expect a lot more speed from a larger case....

Federal won't win with this one.

Grendel is a better case design for an AR-15.

They should have used the Grendel case. A shortenrd 6.8 case isn't much better than 223

Looking at the ballistics I think your wrong in this case cowboy.

I still ask a bit of why.... 223 and 90s hit 2750. BUT thats in a single round loading affair so I guess now that I think of it...

But for a bolt rifle there 223 will out pace the 224..... wild...

It does seem odd that the 5.56 in a bolt gun will outrun this new round

No it won't. Not even if you run a 223 hot as chit....

Know one likes 223/5.56 more than I... but let's get real here- the 224 Valkyrie is 200+ FPS faster when loaded same/same. And you can get baller factory ammo for $20 a box. And it fits in the M16/M4 FOW magazines.


Gun guys are the weirdest bunch- they bish about everything without ever thinking about it. The 224V is the closet thing we will get to a fast twist 22-250 with factory loaded high BC bullets. As a shooter I say- hell yes.