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I guess, though, that a lot of cops are handicapped by their equipment. No, they aren't. They are handicapped because they think, like many, that a change in hardware will solve what is actually a software deficit. Any modern, quality handgun will shoot more than well enough to win a gunfight as long as the shooter will stop reading gun magazines, worrying about trigger reset and bore axis, etc...and just shoot. More words of wisdom. Train to fight and win with whatever you have. The gun is almost irrelevant. Probably not the most popular thing to say on a gun forum, though. Bob
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I guess, though, that a lot of cops are handicapped by their equipment. No, they aren't. They are handicapped because they think, like many, that a change in hardware will solve what is actually a software deficit. Any modern, quality handgun will shoot more than well enough to win a gunfight as long as the shooter will stop reading gun magazines, worrying about trigger reset and bore axis, etc...and just shoot. More words of wisdom. Train to fight and win with whatever you have. The gun is almost irrelevant. Probably not the most popular thing to say on a gun forum, though. Bob Agreed, for ordinary combat distances, most commonly used service handguns are more than adequate to the task. No need for a target gun in the vast majority of cases. That's not to say that a more accurate gun doesn't provide a certain addition to one's comfort level. I remember an early period after switching from a 1911 to a Kahr P9, I was at the outdoor shooting club to which I belong. I'm of the habit of going when there's the highest likelihood that I will have the whole place to myself (we each get the combination to the front gate). Anyway, I was shooting rifle this day, and there was one other guy there, someone I didn't know. He was shooting a Beretta Storm 9mm carbine. Anyway, while I was down range checking my target (an area with almost zero cover potential, and no escape route apart from the direction of the benches), he hung back. I remember the thought occurring to me that if this guy suddenly went homicidal (Yes, to paraphrase General Mattis, I'm always devising a plan to kill everyone I meet, LOL), I'd sure have had a lot more confidence if I had my 1911 on (with its more precise trigger break and longer sight radius) as opposed to my Kahr P9.
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I bough an Israeli FN, had it cut for Heinies, trigger worked, Cerakoted, etc...turned into a very nice gun with intention of carrying it. Gun shoots incredibly, and I have always loved the Hi Power. After all that, I found I still prefer to carry the plastic stuff. More bullets, less weight, less money, no worries.
I am undecided if the Hi Power will continue to occupy a place in the safe, or move on down the road. i am not much on safe queens. I'd like to see some pics of that pistol, I bet it's pretty sweet.
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liliysdad, That's a good looking Hi Power! Thanks for posting.
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liliysdad, That's a good looking Hi Power! Thanks for posting. That IS nice! Bob
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I carry one sometimes. Bob RGK, That's a sweet HiPower you have there as well. Really like the grips.
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liliysdad, That's a good looking Hi Power! Thanks for posting. Thank you. It did turn out very nice. I still need to get a set grips for it, likely something in G10.... That being said, I have kind of lost interest. I ran a couple of hundred rounds through it, and its been sitting in the safe since. I am really leaning toward sending it on down the road.
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FN is not going to make anymore BHP's after 2017. Just got verification from BHSprings. Might want to keep it.
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Doesn't really influence me either way...they've been threatening it for years, and they are already rare as hens teeth new. The market is what it is.
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For those of us who grew up in the age of external hammers, we have no more issue lowering a Hi Power's hammer than most other pistols, but there's really no need to do that. ....except when I killed my water heater decocking my 1911. Actually had butter on my fingers. Cost me $500.
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For those of us who grew up in the age of external hammers, we have no more issue lowering a Hi Power's hammer than most other pistols, but there's really no need to do that. ....except when I killed my water heater decocking my 1911. Actually had butter on my fingers. Cost me $500. That's why I generally discourage people from doing that on a loaded chamber. I grew up shooting guns with exposed hammers. Hunted with a Winchester 94 and a Remington 1889 Hammer gun, so I got pretty adept at manipulating a hammer. To do it on an auto pistol takes a very practiced hand...minus the butter
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FN is not going to make anymore BHP's after 2017. Just got verification from BHSprings. Might want to keep it. FN has been trying to shut down the Hi Power line for at least a decade, but their military customers who still have tons of Hi Powers still demand parts for them.
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FN is not going to make anymore BHP's after 2017. Just got verification from BHSprings. Might want to keep it. FN has been trying to shut down the Hi Power line for at least a decade, but their military customers who still have tons of Hi Powers still demand parts for them. Go on to BHsprings solutions website. They live and breath along side of FN. Parts, no problem. Made in India, no problem. Don't take my word for it. It might be temporary, but there it is. It is not a rumor.
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