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Never had the need to tape a barrel - I just make sure I know where the muzzle is and keep chit out of it.. Thought the same way till the day I tripped and fell face first in muskeg bog. Up till that point I was 20yrs easy without the tape and no incident. Sounds like life in general- just when you think you've got something whipped, it smacks you upside the head!
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Never had the need to tape a barrel - I just make sure I know where the muzzle is and keep chit out of it.. Thats good advice. Besides, will a 6.5 Creedmoor even make enough energy to break the tape?
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Never had any luck with blue tape or blue anything. I keep a good stock of black, red, and yellow tape in the hunt camp. The one year I forgot to tape the muzzle, had a very heavy snowfall one day followed by below 0 morning. Had a bull dead in his bed from prone less than 100 yards slightly uphill from him, but ice in the muzzle caused the first shot to fly almost a foot wide at 50 yards into a fat quakie. The next shot hit a bunch of small quakies and dove into the ground under his bed. That flushed him out real quickly.
Now I make sure everybody is well taped before heading out.
By the way, there is no way tape can "back up pressure in the barrel". The air in front of the bullet blows the tape open long before the bullet reaches the muzzle. I have tested this on the range and observed no change in POI with several rifles.
But these threads are still as much fun as ever!!!
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Never had the need to tape a barrel - I just make sure I know where the muzzle is and keep chit out of it.. Thats good advice. Besides, will a 6.5 Creedmoor even make enough energy to break the tape? And here we go.......
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That last (overpenetrtion) also is a classic thread(s). I too have taped muzzles for many years. Valuable in nasty weather, heavy vegetation, or if one takes a header in mud or snow. Blue is the TSX of tapes..... Wearing a lucky shirt doesn't hurt either. Both of which I did (and glad of it when I buried the snowmachine in a snowpit! - the tape that is - lucky shirts don't help at all with that.) 10 days ago, out of Kotzebue, just above the Artctic Circle. A week before - you can see the muzzle tape. Muzzle tape country... try working your way through this stuff - mostly I go around if I can.. 2014 moose was taken at 30 yards on the little snowy ridge, out near the end, in the center of this picture.
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Thanks never go in the bush without muzzle being taped. They make a pill for that, ya know...... What color is that pill ?
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Never had the need to tape a barrel - I just make sure I know where the muzzle is and keep chit out of it.. Thought the same way till the day I tripped and fell face first in muskeg bog. Up till that point I was 20yrs easy without the tape and no incident. I think I've tripped a time or two with a rifle.. Just held it up and out of the way.. Problem solved...
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Easier said than done Lee in a bog with a heavy pack on your back. Gotta remember that black gumbo has no bottom and you do your best to float on top and move fast. Rifle was the very least of my concern at that point.
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Besides, will a 6.5 Creedmoor even make enough energy to break the tape?
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Never had the need to tape a barrel - I just make sure I know where the muzzle is and keep chit out of it.. Thats good advice. Besides, will a 6.5 Creedmoor even make enough energy to break the tape? Probably not. The 6.5x55 on the other hand...
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Never had the need to tape a barrel - I just make sure I know where the muzzle is and keep chit out of it.. Thought the same way till the day I tripped and fell face first in muskeg bog. Up till that point I was 20yrs easy without the tape and no incident. I think I've tripped a time or two with a rifle.. Just held it up and out of the way.. Problem solved... You must fall slow and well balanced... . And if it's the rifle or a body part gonna get it, the rifle comes second.
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Reasoning in line with not using muzzle tape: I haven't been in a vehicle accident in 20 years - so I don't need to take that few seconds to snap the seatbelt.... I've never had a safety fail, or had an inadvertent discharge so I carry hot at all times... I have yet to make a girl pregnant, so I don't need a condom. (except maybe for my rifle muzzle). I don't carry one in the chamber, so I don't need to check it each time I pick it up after an interim.... But I'll use $60/box bullets for that one time in 100 when $25/box bullets might not cut it.... cartridges, that is..... . After all, one can't be too careful......
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With no concomitant rise in chamber pressure! Talk about a win-win. Figured an engineer would appreciate that!
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Thanks never go in the bush without muzzle being taped. They make a pill for that, ya know...... What color is that pill ? Don't know, I'm talking wimmin's pills.
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With no concomitant rise in chamber pressure! Talk about a win-win. Figured an engineer would appreciate that! Yes indeed!
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I've heard that round nose bullets will bounce off the tape and go back into the barrel. Make sure you use a pointed bullet like a ballistic tip or accubond to be sure the bullet pokes through the tape.
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[quote=mngunhead]I've heard that round nose bullets will bounce off the tape and go back into the barrel. Make sure you use a pointed bullet like a ballistic tip or accubond to be sure the bullet pokes through the tape.[/quote
That's solid advice right there!!! Grin
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[quote=mngunhead]I've heard that round nose bullets will bounce off the tape and go back into the barrel. Make sure you use a pointed bullet like a ballistic tip or accubond to be sure the bullet pokes through the tape.[/quote
That's solid advice right there!!! Grin Useing ballistic tips is not solid advice. I always use a bonded bullet such as the accubond to prevent jacket/core seperation. Also if useing more than 1 layer of tape I prefer Barnes bullets because they penetrate tape further than other bullets. Grin Tristan
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When I started hunting with my dad as a small boy we were hunting snowshoe rabbits in waist deep Adirondack snow. About 1945-6. I remember "helping" tape the 12ga to keep out the snow. The same process ensued when I began hunting whitetails but the guns were Dad's 300Sav and my Model 64 32Winchester Special. I thought everybody taped their gun muzzle.
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