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Replaced my 308 this fall (thanks again to JCMCUBIC) with another Montana 308. I wanted a single load to hunt everything from deer to bear so decided to try 180's. I tried 180 horn and 180 Sierra Prohunter over Varget and Re 15. My rifle liked Re 15 under a 180 Sierra. For reference the orange square is 1". The top left is the 180 sierra/44 gr load. I shot that load twice after initial load development and all remain well under 1".

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I was curious how expansion would be from the 22" barrel Kimber 308 at a sedate 2525-2550. I shot 2 deer in Pa 2 weeks back. A medium 8pt and a doe, both at ~ 50-60 yards. I only caught one bullet. This was from a front facing into the brisket. I found it back by the right ham. Penetrated 2 feet of deer or so. I'd say pretty text book. It retained 78% of its weight. I'd not hesitate on about anything in the east with that rifle/load combo. In fact, my previous 308 was headed to Montana for sneaking around in the timber. The Montana 308 has become one of my favorite rifles.

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I wouldn't change----looks perfect.

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I’ve yet to have a 308 MT that didn’t shoot 180’s really, really well. I run them around 2,630.


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Originally Posted by Brad
I’ve yet to have a 308 MT that didn’t shoot 180’s really, really well. I run them around 2,630.

You can get a 180 in a 308 going that fast? I had no idea. Of course, in my only 308, a Springfield SOCOM M1A1 I'm lucky to get 2600 out of 150gr factory ammo. Gotta love that 16" barrel.

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I haven't been without a 308 for 30 years. Currently own two. Always used 180gr Hornady SPs but have 200 RN that I need to use up.

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Originally Posted by bwinters
...The ideal eastern rifle...


Bullets barely clear the muzzle if you take it west of the Mississippi!

I like the Western rifle you posted as well, just keep 'em separated and make sure they know their place.

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My Montana shoots 165 grain Speer BTSP over varget under an in for 3


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Nice Bill!

My 7-08 Montana fills the same role. It shoots 145 & 160 Speer GS's very well with no scope adjustment needed.

Does anyone have game experience with 180 Speer HC's out of the .308?

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Nice. I like it a lot. Quite a few Kimbers hitting the Classifieds. Good reminder here that these rifles do in fact shoot well.

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Killed a few deer with those 180 Pro-hunters moving 2600 out of a 760 30-06, always got an exit on broadside shots. Deer usually went 30-40 steps and fell over dead. No excessive bullet fragmentation. Also very accurate like most of Sierra's offerings.


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My 84 Mt. Ascent in 308 loves Federal Fusion 180s.


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I've been toying with the idea of getting a Montana. Been leaning toward the 280AI,but folks here keep making a case for the 308. I'm well heeled in both for components. Bought 250 Speer 180 RN a while back. Hardly ideal,but boy do they look cool. Nice shooting bwinters.


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You need both!


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I like the way you think.


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I'm not really kidding. I have both........... <G>


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I've been shooting 178 ELD-X's out of my 22" 308's at about 2620 fps with 44.5 gr of Varget. The 18" Ruger Predator shoots them at about 2575. Accuracy has been excellent. I have RL-15, but haven't felt any need to experiment further.


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Take any game with that bullet? If so,how did it do?


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If your post is to me - I posted a recovered bullet in my original post. I shot 2 deer with that load/bullet. Both performed admirably and resulted in 2 very dead deer in short order. As opposed to semi-dead deer <G>


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I was actually asking about the 178 ELD X JMR40 mentioned. I should have copied his post. My bad. I am however impressed with the performance of the Pro Hunter in your pic. They have been an accurate and deadly bullet for me. Before I got all jacked up on the new premium stuff.


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