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Nice rifle Elk, is that a 3X Leupold on that rifle?
It is a 2.5x Leupold. GuyM,I remember the them also,excellent rifle for the money back then.
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Anybody who needs a barrel band mounted sling swivel doesn't know how to hold a rifle correctly,or has too short of a forend.
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Back to the Partition "problem", I wonder if there wasn't a process defect in some of the bullets at one time. I recall reading a thread on a defunct site about a .375" Partition appearing to lose its rear core after being shot into a log or something like that. He wasn't complaining, he was just wondering what may have happened. It seemed the responses were it couldn't happen. There were no pictures but the poster seemed perplexed and not accusatory as to what happened.
Also, I think it was Kevin Robrtson who wrote of a similar experience in one of his books. I can't remember his thoughts on the matter were but the mention did stand out. That is about it for the hearsay, anecdotal folk lore I can add to this thread. If there was the rare manufacturing flaw that showed up in the field even once, it would be little surprise to see that story spread and enlarged in short order.
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Anybody who needs a barrel band mounted sling swivel doesn't know how to hold a rifle correctly,or has too short of a forend. That gun's killed a mess of NM Jackwabbits and I never heard any complaints from Elk... So, I guess he can hold it right and it isn't too short... DF
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Anybody who needs a barrel band mounted sling swivel doesn't know how to hold a rifle correctly,or has too short of a forend. That gun's killed a mess of NM Jackwabbits and I never heard any complaints from Elk... So, I guess he can hold it right and it isn't too short... DF Or,they like a barrel mounted sling stud.
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Barrel Mounted Sling Swivel!!!
It’s my understanding that the purpose was, on high recoil rifles, sometimes the front sling swivel would contact the hand (hard). If nothing else, it lowers the muzzle when rifle is shouldered....which is beneficial in areas of low limbs, etc.. I have a barrel mounted swivel on my rifle.I can shoulder my rifle and walk up out of my basement without contact on the overhead....can’t with my wife’s rifle (conventional stock mount)!
The only negative (IMO) is... if you use a tight sling when shooting, it could change barrel harmonics or cause contact with a free floated barrel...causing a zero-shift. As I have full length bedding....it hasn’t proven to be an issue for me! memtb
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Nice rifle Elk, is that a 3X Leupold on that rifle?
It is a 2.5x Leupold. GuyM,I remember the them also,excellent rifle for the money back then. Thanks Elk.
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Anybody who needs a barrel band mounted sling swivel doesn't know how to hold a rifle correctly,or has too short of a forend. LOL, not always, they look cooler, are more secure that a stock stud, plus, if you're not four foot five inches tall, they provide a much lower carrying height for a slung rifle, mucho easier getting through the thicks.
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Ken, that is a seriously nice rifle. Love the straight-grain stock! I remember when those Interarms Mark X Whitworth rifles were readily available... Should have helped myself to a pair of 'em way back when. Of course, I was in the Marines then and pretty much broke. Sigh... A pair of 'em in 30-06 and 375, and I could have taken any big game... But, I didn't have the money for big hunts either. Gotta quit hallucinating! Guy The guns we have let slip through our fingers... ☹️
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I let a pre-'64 Model 70 .375 H&H slip away, priced at only $375. But that was in 1974, the equivalent of $2000 today--still a good deal, but I couldn't come up with that much money in '74!
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Couple pics of the left-hand side of the Whitworth.
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Ken, That's a good looking rifle. How's she shoot for you?
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I let a pre-'64 Model 70 .375 H&H slip away, priced at only $375. But that was in 1974, the equivalent of $2000 today--still a good deal, but I couldn't come up with that much money in '74! Talk about "the one that got away!"
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Been awhile since I shot it,but IIRC with a 300 gr SAF it is around 1-1/4" at 100 yards. Good enough for jackrabbits.
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Good enough for jackrabbits. Stunt shooter. You need a 460Wby with 500gr solids for jacks... 😜
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Been awhile since I shot it,but IIRC with a 300 gr SAF it is around 1-1/4" at 100 yards. Good enough for jackrabbits. Nice, and I'll bet those lightweight Weavers have never thought about slipping that scope.
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Been awhile since I shot it,but IIRC with a 300 gr SAF it is around 1-1/4" at 100 yards. Good enough for jackrabbits. Nice, and I'll bet those lightweight Weavers have never thought about slipping that scope. It isn't an issue in this case. Ken's so damned skinny he absorbs all of the recoil, much like a pole vaulter's pole bending. That way, there is no real recoil impulse to bother the scope mounts. Ed
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Actually Ed,I'm full of schit and that stuff is like a shock absorber when it comes to recoil.
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Been awhile since I shot it,but IIRC with a 300 gr SAF it is around 1-1/4" at 100 yards. Good enough for jackrabbits. Nice, and I'll bet those lightweight Weavers have never thought about slipping that scope. It isn't an issue in this case. Ken's so damned skinny he absorbs all of the recoil, much like a pole vaulter's pole bending. That way, there is no real recoil impulse to bother the scope mounts. Ed
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Actually Ed,I'm full of schit and that stuff is like a shock absorber when it comes to recoil. Oh no. Sounds like you are a Limbsaver on legs. 😉
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