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As I know, anyone shooting at any Animal (except Coyote) at distance longer than 250 m is not a Hunter but an idiot, or sport-"hunter" who even do not take the killed Animal, just because only a few in N.A. can consistently shoot "accurately" (means: kill quick) at that large distance.
So what is for long-range Hunting. Is long-range associated only with target shooting? Is 250 m distance long-range?
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Idiots, all of you! LOL
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As I know, anyone shooting at any Animal (except Coyote) at distance longer than 250 m is not a Hunter but an idiot, or sport-"hunter" who even do not take the killed Animal, just because only a few in N.A. can consistently shoot "accurately" (means: kill quick) at that large distance.
So what is for long-range Hunting. Is long-range associated only with target shooting? Is 250 m distance long-range? That hurt my head to read.
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As I know, anyone shooting at any Animal (except Coyote) at distance longer than 250 m is not a Hunter but an idiot..... I'll play along. How did you come by this knowledge? And if you know this to be true, why are you asking if 250 m is "long range?" Those two seem to be contradictory.
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Few fire long suffer 250.
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... "I'll play along. How did you come by this knowledge?"
AS I KNOW, it is 300 m, but I shorten it to 250 m, no animal will run away if a man is at even much shorter distance than 250 m. Each Hunter should make any afford to not wound an Animal but to make quick kill. At 250 m bullet drop is enough (just below 0.7 m) to miss and Moose, all of other being perfect. But add many other problem, like wind, bullet energy is around half of muzzle energy,... there are great chance to wound an Animal and never recover it, especially Elk. But this is the whole another story, and if you guys do knows it, and keep wounding Animals, well it is different problem.
"... And if you know this to be true, why are you asking if 250 m is "long range?" I see many times wording as "Long-Range", but what it means is all I asked (is it 1000 m or 100 m, or ...). What is definition for Long-Range? and why Long and NO-Long range. Where is the threshold?
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Stroke. OP had one.
How long before he's an expert on here? 2 maybe 3 months?
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no animal will run away if a man is at even much shorter distance than 250 m.
Obviously you've never hunted pronghorn. Or elk or deer after the hunting season starts on public land. Every one of them will run when they see a man at 250 meters in that situation. At 250 m bullet drop is enough (just below 0.7 m) to miss and Moose, all of other being perfect.
Obviously, you are unfamiliar with modern rifles and the trajectories of the bullets they shoot. As well as modern rifle scopes. But add many other problem, like wind, bullet energy is around half of muzzle energy,... ? Obviously you are unfamiliar with modern, high-BC bullets and the ballistics thereof. What is definition for Long-Range? and why Long and NO-Long range. Where is the threshold? Obviously, you are unfamiliar with the concept of understanding a topic before pontificating on the same.
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As I know, anyone shooting at any Animal (except Coyote) at distance longer than 250 m is not a Hunter but an idiot, or sport-"hunter" who even do not take the killed Animal, just because only a few in N.A. can consistently shoot "accurately" (means: kill quick) at that large distance.
So what is for long-range Hunting. Is long-range associated only with target shooting? Is 250 m distance long-range? Go away, you are a pot stirrer.
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And yes 250M would be a fairly long shot for my pistols.
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are you guys sure you're not badmouthing Yoda?
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Good to know that you are still a hunter if it's only coyotes that you shot at over 250m.
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... "I'll play along. How did you come by this knowledge?"
AS I KNOW, it is 300 m, but I shorten it to 250 m, no animal will run away if a man is at even much shorter distance than 250 m. Each Hunter should make any afford to not wound an Animal but to make quick kill. At 250 m bullet drop is enough (just below 0.7 m) to miss and Moose, all of other being perfect. But add many other problem, like wind, bullet energy is around half of muzzle energy,... there are great chance to wound an Animal and never recover it, especially Elk. But this is the whole another story, and if you guys do knows it, and keep wounding Animals, well it is different problem.
"... And if you know this to be true, why are you asking if 250 m is "long range?" I see many times wording as "Long-Range", but what it means is all I asked (is it 1000 m or 100 m, or ...). What is definition for Long-Range? and why Long and NO-Long range. Where is the threshold? ....................myYukon......You a Chevy Yukon fan or are you from the Yukon?..........Well this is interesting. So you feel that in any given hunting situation, hunters who do not restrict themselves to 300 meters or less (except for coyotes) are idiots? You would be right on the idiot portion but only in this respect. If a hunter failed to practice shooting at longer ranges, failed to properly sight in or zero his or her rifle beforehand, failed to make sure the rig is in good working order beforehand and failed in not knowing the bullet of choice trajectories and wind drifts etc beforehand. There are more categories of un-preparedness, but in general, not being properly prepared is idiocy. In that respect I would agree with you. To put a range restriction on a well prepared in "all categories" hunter, using a proper long range cartridge, bullet and rifle to get the job done, which said hunter can properly handle, carry and can absorb recoil (if using a higher recoiling cartridge) is imo, a very ludicrous and idiotic observation on your part. As an example!...... Lets assume a well prepared hunter who on the last day of his hunt spots a wonderful big bull elk at 400-500 yards. And because of the terrain cannot get closer and/or would risk detection by the bull if he tried to get closer. In your opinion he should not take the shot? I would agree with you in not taking the shot if the hunter were using a 30-30 or another inferior cartridge not designed for that purpose. Lets see now.......Therefore in your opinion, any well prepared hunter using any one of the many excellent or outstanding long range cartridges, that regardless of long range capability to effectively kill elk or other game well beyond 400, 500, 600 yards etc,,,,,should not take the shot beyond 250-300 meters? Well speaking for me, I think my 28 Nosler, 300 WSM, 338-378 Wby and maybe a soon to acquire 6.5/284 might disagree with you. And I have a feeling that all the well prepared boys who hunt longer ranges with their 25-06s, 257 Wbys, 260 Rems, 264 Win Mags, 6.5 Creeds, 6.5/284s, 26 Noslers, 6.5/300 Wbys, 270 Wins, 270 Wby Mags, 7mm Rem Mags, 7mm Wby Mags, 28 Noslers, 7 RUMs and STWs, 308s, 30-06s, 300 WSMs, 300 Win/Wby Mags, 300 RUMs, and even the powerful 338s,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just may disagree with you as well........Sorry if I left out a favorite round!!! LOL Sure! We all want to get as close as we can to any game. But to state that all who take a shot beyond 250-300 meters are idiots? Next time you are standing in front of a mirror, what do you see? My guess is an idiot.
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As I know, anyone shooting at any Animal (except Coyote) at distance longer than 250 m is not a Hunter but an idiot, or sport-"hunter" who even do not take the killed Animal, just because only a few in N.A. can consistently shoot "accurately" (means: kill quick) at that large distance.
So what is for long-range Hunting. Is long-range associated only with target shooting? Is 250 m distance long-range? He thank you for saying this for. I have no idea why people are do that for real. These times always 250m and beyond sometimes too. I'm just not totally it but it's not been a problem neither. People should be happy when they get to know that they can hunt down the deer more closer. Sometimes they'd Justin need told bout it. I appreciate your advice and hint. Look forward to the film at 11. Does because they're not hunters just to. Last time was farther but they better now to by the way
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Dave, is that you?
I resent coyotes being excluded, Coyotes Lives Matter.
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Dam sounds like it's time to drop a chlorine tablet in the gene pool.
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Dam sounds like it's time to drop a chlorine tablet in the gene pool.
Lol Thinking more like a courtesy flush The OP is more like an upper decker.
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I wish the OP would have posted this 10 yrs ago. I would have saved a ton of money. Lmao
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who can hunt long range and who can't ? all men are not born equal. even pro shooters can't be extremely good. but for conversation sake long range shooting an hunting is all about practicing and getting better over time.
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Just count holes in Horns and legs... it is common picture. I should not expect better answer from such "hunters" for they do not have it. You guys really make a bad picture on hunting... It is all just simple, if cannot come close for "sure" shot just leave it alone. Smokepole: might be your ballistic shows some zigzaging. Look better and turn light on, e.g at Barnes or Sako or ..., ballistic data... Uf 600 meter? are you using missile (which brand is it) from your distance or some other secret weapon...
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Hunt very sneaky for to get closer. Use scope to look see, good hunters don’t need binoculars they only look where game is .binoculars take long time game get away.
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Just count holes in Horns and legs... it is common picture. I should not expect better answer from such "hunters" for they do not have it. You guys really make a bad picture on hunting... It is all just simple, if cannot come close for "sure" shot just leave it alone. Smokepole: might be your ballistic shows some zigzaging. Look better and turn light on, e.g at Barnes or Sako or ..., ballistic data... Uf 600 meter? are you using missile (which brand is it) from your distance or some other secret weapon... OK Clark, the gig is up. But I not use missile. I use rocket from rocket boy N. Korea. Numbah one!
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As I know, anyone shooting at any Animal (except Coyote) at distance longer than 250 m is not a Hunter but an idiot, or sport-"hunter" who even do not take the killed Animal, just because only a few in N.A. can consistently shoot "accurately" (means: kill quick) at that large distance.
So what is for long-range Hunting. Is long-range associated only with target shooting? Is 250 m distance long-range? You should try it after putting a scope on your gun.
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Haven’t seen Kawi posting lately.. If you’ve been reading these pages you have whether you know it or not 😊
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... "I'll play along. How did you come by this knowledge?"
AS I KNOW, it is 300 m, but I shorten it to 250 m, no animal will run away if a man is at even much shorter distance than 250 m. Each Hunter should make any afford to not wound an Animal but to make quick kill. At 250 m bullet drop is enough (just below 0.7 m) to miss and Moose, all of other being perfect. But add many other problem, like wind, bullet energy is around half of muzzle energy,... there are great chance to wound an Animal and never recover it, especially Elk. But this is the whole another story, and if you guys do knows it, and keep wounding Animals, well it is different problem.
"... And if you know this to be true, why are you asking if 250 m is "long range?" I see many times wording as "Long-Range", but what it means is all I asked (is it 1000 m or 100 m, or ...). What is definition for Long-Range? and why Long and NO-Long range. Where is the threshold? Granted I only read about half a page, but you are one dumb MF
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Just count holes in Horns and legs... it is common picture. I should not expect better answer from such "hunters" for they do not have it. You guys really make a bad picture on hunting... It is all just simple, if cannot come close for "sure" shot just leave it alone. Smokepole: might be your ballistic shows some zigzaging. Look better and turn light on, e.g at Barnes or Sako or ..., ballistic data... Uf 600 meter? are you using missile (which brand is it) from your distance or some other secret weapon... English isn't your first language? Or perhaps you don't really have a language.
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