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Guess who supports it?

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President Donald Trump strongly endorsed a national voter identification law Thursday, repeating his claim that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 presidential election.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...0-98system-is-rigged-e2-80-99/ar-BBHRCy8

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I hope the liberal heads spin right off.

I say, make it a law that all votes for federal positions be positively verified for ID. If states want to have "free for all" votes for state and local positions, fine. Let 'em. But if the ballot has federal positions on it, positive ID required.


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The Swamp will fight voter identity laws very hard. There has been talk of crooked elections since I was a kid. Nothing has changed. Hasbeen


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Good intent, bad solution. I'm against giving more state and local power to the Federal government though any kind of national registry. We have plenty of ID, no need for more at the Federal level.

The problem isn't ID documents but local enforcement, and voting is by local precincts, run by county administration in the state I know best. 'Course, we could do away with state and local government and let our efficient bureaucrats in D.C., who have our local interests at heart, run everything.



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You should have to have and show ID to vote. I know a @$$ hat that lives in a small town just outside of a larger city. Said person used to live in that city before moving to the smaller town. Never changed their address and still votes in the larger city and thinks it's perfectly fine. Persons a libtard of course.

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Originally Posted by Okanagan
Good intent, bad solution. I'm against giving more state and local power to the Federal government though any kind of national registry. We have plenty of ID, no need for more at the Federal level.

The problem isn't ID documents but local enforcement, and voting is by local precincts, run by county administration in the state I know best. 'Course, we could do away with state and local government and let our efficient bureaucrats in D.C., who have our local interests at heart, run everything.




State and local elections could and should be separated from national, federal elections.

The state can handle that easily.


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What are you going to do about the states that are all mail ballots?

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Originally Posted by colorado bob
What are you going to do about the states that are all mail ballots?


They will be offset by the states that are all fe-mail ballots.

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Originally Posted by hasbeen1945
The Swamp will fight voter identity laws very hard. There has been talk of crooked elections since I was a kid. Nothing has changed. Hasbeen


You have that correct hasbeen,

Could be stated the same for most anything:

The Swamp will fight immigration reform laws very hard. There has been talk of immigration problems since before I was a kid. Nothing has changed.

The Swamp will fight true tax reform (as in a flat tax, 1 page tax form for everyone) very hard. There has been talk of tax reform since I was a kid. Nothing has changed.

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PS, I kinda hold with whoever it was about not giving us another ID at another level. Easy enough to do like they have with DL's, set a minimum standard for your state or we won't recognize you state's DL for boarding planes etc.


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Originally Posted by colorado bob
What are you going to do about the states that are all mail ballots?



I guess it would be easy-peasy.

You enter your national ID # to have a valid vote in national races.

Same as at the polls. The states could let who they wanted in the polling places, but to activate a vote for national elections, the voter ID would have to be presented.

Without that, you could vote in all local elections, but it wouldn't even factor into national elections.


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My wife and I were in the grocery, and decided to get a bottle of blackberry wine for a cake she was baking. I am 67 years old, and had to show my ID to buy it. If that's the case for that, then it should be a no brainer for voting......something that has one hellva lot more implications than buying wine. I see absolutely nothing wrong with requiring an ID in order to vote......AND if I was running the show, you'd have to own property in order to vote, and show proof that you are an American citizen.

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In my mind the only folks opposed to voter identification laws are the folks who have something to gain by having unidentified or improperly identified voters vote... Nothing to hide, no worries...



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One has to show id when buying spirits/beer ans smoking products.

It should be the same with voting.

Folks that say is causes hardship on certain folks have no clue about what they speak.

They can get a card free, so no one should be without one.

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Might help prevent Dead Uncle Fred from voting, but I am not an expert on voter fraud.
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Originally Posted by kid0917
Originally Posted by colorado bob
What are you going to do about the states that are all mail ballots?


They will be offset by the states that are all fe-mail ballots.



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Originally Posted by Okanagan
Good intent, bad solution. I'm against giving more state and local power to the Federal government though any kind of national registry. We have plenty of ID, no need for more at the Federal level.

The problem isn't ID documents but local enforcement, and voting is by local precincts, run by county administration in the state I know best. 'Course, we could do away with state and local government and let our efficient bureaucrats in D.C., who have our local interests at heart, run everything.



Federal Law can be easily supervised and enforced by federal law enforcement. I know of few people who would want to risk violating federal election law.


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Originally Posted by Okanagan
Good intent, bad solution. I'm against giving more state and local power to the Federal government though any kind of national registry. We have plenty of ID, no need for more at the Federal level.

The problem isn't ID documents but local enforcement, and voting is by local precincts, run by county administration in the state I know best. 'Course, we could do away with state and local government and let our efficient bureaucrats in D.C., who have our local interests at heart, run everything.



Federal Law can be easily supervised and enforced by federal law enforcement.


Exactly. This kind of thinking, about going to the Feds for national registry and control to solve local problems, is what scares me about my friends, never mind the leftists. laugh

A federal registry of voters managed by computer is a dream come true for any national police force, whether we call it Gestapo, Homeland Security, KGB, Purity in the Voting Booth or whatever. The Republicans are setting up the means for a police state, all in the name of protecting us. Does anyone really believe that if the bureaucrats in DC had a national registry that they would limit it to voting? Once in place it would be a waste not to add the individual's police record, medical record, gun ownership, political affiliations...

I say again that setting up Homeland Security was the single worst act of Congress in my lifetime and will eventually be used against anyone who openly disagrees with the government in power. It is a baby Gestapo. A computer based national registry of voters is merely another step on the way.

We can be sure that no Attorney General nor police officer would abuse such power. wink Nah, we'll register everybody and can be sure than only good guys will use the system.

Let's see, a laser bar code tattoo or implant would simplify the system, make it a lot easier for those protecting us. It could carry all of the info about each person and make it quick and easy to spot terrorists, illegal voters, tax delinquents, those behind on child support, concealed carry permit-tees, and make it much safer for police officers.

Do we really really want to lay the foundation for such a system by starting a national registry of voters? Obviously many here do want that. It used to be that only the socialists ran to the Feds to solve local problems, but now we are all getting on that wagon. This Federal cure is worse than the country disease.

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Lotta dead MF’s voted

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I don't understand the problem. Here in TN we have to have ID to open a bank account, drive on public roads, purchase alcohol and yes Vote. When we go to vote we have to have both our voter registration card and proof of who we are. Why can't other states do the same.

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Idaho does have a voter ID law. We have to show a DL or state ID card to vote.


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I just looked at the Virginia voting web site. You don't even have to have a current driver's license to vote. If expired for less than a year, you are good to go.

No rules for proxy voting for Dead Uncle Fred, though.

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Originally Posted by Okanagan
Good intent, bad solution. I'm against giving more state and local power to the Federal government though any kind of national registry. We have plenty of ID, no need for more at the Federal level.

The problem isn't ID documents but local enforcement, and voting is by local precincts, run by county administration in the state I know best. 'Course, we could do away with state and local government and let our efficient bureaucrats in D.C., who have our local interests at heart, run everything.




If we dont get a handle on this, illegal voters, along with dimocraps, will give eventually give the federal govt all the control it needs to take our constitution away anyway.


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Copy & Paste from the interweb for things requiring ad ID.......


1. Boarding an airplane
2. Writing a check
3. Cashing a check
4. Using a credit card
5. Driving a motor vehicle
6. Applying for a business license
7. Applying for permission to hold a protest or rally
8. Securing employment
9. Purchasing a house or real estate
10. Renting a domicile
11. Renting a motor vehicle
12. Purchasing a firearm (Includes BB guns)
13. Applying for a hunting license (waived for 16 and 17 year olds when their legal guardian provides a photo ID)
14. Applying for a fishing license (waived for 16 and 17 year olds when their legal guardian provides a photo ID)
15. Purchasing alcoholic beverages
16. Purchasing tobacco or products that contain nicotine
17. Purchasing a motor vehicle
18. Initial registration of a motor vehicle
19. Applying for a building permit
20. Receiving prescription medicine
21. Purchasing OTC medicine that contains pseudoephedrine
22. Serving on jury duty
23. Getting a bank account
24. Cash transactions of $5000.00 or greater
25. Sales tax exemption for people aged 80 and above

Of the above, numbers 2, 3 and 4 are not state law but at a business owners discretion. By law, they can demand it. Numbers 15, 16 and 25 are usually applied using common sense, as in if you appear to be too young the business can demand proof and refuse to engage in the activity if one cannot provide proof of the required age law.

All of the above are things that occur on a daily basis but not necessarily to everybody.
Despite the above common actions that people engage in, some seem to think that asking for a photo ID for voting purposes is somehow a violation of civil liberties or an attempt to prevent people from voting. The really interesting part is that it is usually liberals claiming that it is conservatives attempting to prevent people from voting when a photo ID law would apply equally to both liberals and conservatives. Heck, they would apply equally regardless of age, gender, ethnicity, weight, sexual orientation, income, health, disability, race, wealth, intelligence, marital status, attractiveness, employment status and everything else. Is there something wrong with preventing the dead, the illegal aliens, the young (under the age of suffrage) and other non-qualified people from voting just as we prevent them from engaging in the activities listed above?

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The first thing we need to do is get rid of Hillary's Motor Voter crap. That has been used to allow illegals to vote. Stop all absentee voting period. If you can't show up to vote then forget it. Do not certify any election until the military votes are in and certified. Those should be considered in another category other than absentee. We can go a long way to stopping voter fraud by making it a stiff penalty for any entity caught allowing fraudulent voting. When it comes right down to it, it's up to local elected and appointed officials to make sure the people voting are legal. Last thing is do not validate any states election totals if the state will not comply with All voting regulations.

Truth tell we really need a poll tax worse now than ever. If you can't afford to pay a small tax to validate your status then you shouldn't be allowed to decide the fate of the country. If you can afford a cell fone you darned sure can afford a poll tax.

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Yes, California went way past the National law that only required states to offer voter registration at all DMVs. They (CA) took it into the next galaxy, by automatically registering people who were getting driver's licenses to vote, unless the applicants opted out. Try explaining "opting out" of voter registration to someone who does not even speak English and is not even legally in this country.

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Originally Posted by kid0917
Might help prevent Dead Uncle Fred from voting, but I am not an expert on voter fraud.
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In Louisiana, we have a long history of dead dimicrats voting early and often. I'm all for mandatory voter ID. There's nothing wrong with forcing a person looking to vote to prove they are actually who they say they are, and are eligible to vote.

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essentially the opponents of this are saying that black people are incapable of getting a voter ID card. inherent racism on their part. if voting is important to someone, they'll get a card.


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Mutha f u c k ing groids can probably get a free ID card anyways, if not let's give the poor downtrodden fuggers one for free. Make it the law of the land to have an ID to vote. Then they ain't got no lame excuse. Plenty of social workers can pick em and give em a ride also if that excuse comes up.


The democrats got every lame excuse known to man for all this shyt....

Law of the land, Register in person with ID and have ID on hand or you don't vote.


Just like white people that pay taxes have too.

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F u c k ing democrat "weekend at bernies" voters.....

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Originally Posted by Okanagan
Good intent, bad solution. I'm against giving more state and local power to the Federal government though any kind of national registry. We have plenty of ID, no need for more at the Federal level.

The problem isn't ID documents but local enforcement, and voting is by local precincts, run by county administration in the state I know best. 'Course, we could do away with state and local government and let our efficient bureaucrats in D.C., who have our local interests at heart, run everything.





There you go, you are dead on.

Funny how so many claim they don't trust government, don't like big government, but want the Central Government to "fix" something that may or may not be broke.

Leave up to the states, it's their turf.


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I don't think people should be allowed to vote unless they have smelled napalm in the morning.


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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
I don't think people should be allowed to vote unless they have smelled napalm in the morning.



DD, as you are aware, I have never smelled napalm in the morning................

could there be an allowance for those that have smelled burning cordite, or maybe launched 510grn bullets from a lever gun!?!?!?


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