Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire I read Ruger is releasing a lot of firearms in 2018

Any chance one will be a 10mm GP100?

Hope they’re better than the last 25 years.

SHOT Show is next week, I think. You'll know soon.

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DID THEY FIX THE PROBLEMS LIKE WITH AMERICAN

DID THEY FIX THE PROBLEMS LIKE WITH AMERICAN

Ruger and others seem to have released a lot of new models in the last few years. Most seem to be inexpensive, cheaply made, but pretty reliable and the rifles are accurate. Nevertheless, I would prefer them to release fewer models and concentrate on quality more.

Agreed, last two Ruger handguns I bought had to go back to the factory, both happened to be in 327 Federal ......

Tim

I'll be interested to see what they come up with.

90% of the new stuff will be black and tacticool.

A left handed stainless 77 in an all weather stock would be nice.

As long as they don't make anything in that worthless .223

Buddy ordered one of the Ruger precision rimfire. Anxious to see how it shoots, the bigger versions certainly do

That is the sad way that the world turns these days.

Leaving for Shot Show tomorrow the 19th. Will report back while I'm there if much is new. Probably just package deals for us dealers. But we will see.

Certainly agree! While cheaper rifles are always nice, I like blue or stainless steel with walnut stocks. Also, I miss the classic designs.

Are you implying that the 223 is another gay cartridge, in the ilk of the 270?

I believe most of us around the 'Fire appreciate classic design. And I know we have different opinions about what that may mean. But I believe Ruger has done a good job (mostly) of putting their finger on the pulse of the market and they make what sells. Some of us may want high gloss, blued steel and walnut but if that won't sell to the masses, Ruger either won't make it at all or they'll only make limited runs. It doens't make me happy, but I'm sure it makes their shareholders happy.

I'm not sure exactly what is meant by "tacticool" Tactical I understand. Perhaps it could be better referred to as user friendly, or purpose engineered. Jack O'Connor wrote about "classic stocked" hunting rifles because they were better suited to his purpose and type of hunting. The gun rags have to have something to champion and "weather resistant" stocks have come into vogue. Calibers have ran the gamut from .223-500. Elmer Keith had his following and many people today are convinced that they are 'under gunned" with anything less than a .3ooWM or bigger for a 90# deer. Some like the .223 or 22-250. To each his own.

Many soldiers have had plenty of experience with the AR styled platform so they gravitate to that. Chassis are just an easy way to stock a rifle that conforms to the AR style in a drop in fit that promotes accuracy.

Different competitions have gravitated towards different style stocks and different caliber specific rifles fit more to their purpose. The various types of Benchrest competitions have specific requirements.

I use different rifles for different purposes. PRS type platforms are different so they work better with different stocks and optics. My hunting stocks are all the classic style championed by JOC. The optics are a little different but not all that much. It depends on what the longest shots are contemplated for hunting. O'Connor shot an Elk at 600 yards with a low powered fixed power scope. In his day variable power scopes were not as reliable but his advise is pertinent today. The scope on a hunting rifle is it's sight and it should conform to that purpose. I love my SS 5-20x50 HD scope but it is too big and bulky for my hunting rifle so I use a shorter lighter scope. However I build my rifles to my specifications and don't expect anyone else to like what I hunt with.

For a gun company it is a never ending quest to keep up with trends and offer what the most people want at a price they can afford. Winchester made a fine hunting rifle but could not get it out the door at a price that everyone wanted to pay. Remington took over the market just as Savage has cornered a large part of the market with their somewhat homely bolt action engineered for ease of manufacture and accuracy. Whatever Ruger comes up with you can rest assured that it will be what they think they can sell for a profit to keep their workforce paid and satisfy the most people they can. Over the years they have offered a good value for their offerings. I expect they will continue their tradition.

Joe

45acp carbine that takes Glock magazines

Great news. Can’t wait to see the lineup! Congrats to Ruger.

Strolling Sportsman's Rifle rack last night, there were very few wood stocks and none that I would consider nice. Black, plastic and cheap is what sells, seems Ruger has gone all in - unfortunate for guys (like me) that like classy wood stocks and deep blued finishes.

Maybe they will build a No.1 in 6.5 creedmoor, that would be cool.

Even better how about another Ruger/Hornady cartridge. 10mm Auto Rim / .400 Ruger whichever they choose. Don't know why it hasn't happened yet. And NO it isn't the same as a .41 Mag. Moon clips for .40 and 10mm or drop in AR / .400 should go well in th GP. New Model Blackhawk with extra .40 cylinder. Maybe a 5 shot Single Six Frame firebreather ??

Often, model proliferation is an indicator of a lack of direction and a lost corporate identity. GD

Would it be that difficult too just build a basic stainless Hawkeye without a Muzzle break, threaded barrel or none of that stuff with a decent stock that doesn’t weigh 10 pounds? What is so difficult about that?
Winchester has I think exactly one stainless mod 70 if I’m correct and it has that stupid fluted barrel.

Bring back the skeleton stock! Slime away haters!


DMc : )

I want a Charger in .17, for my "shoot out the window at varmints" gun.........suppressed of course

I hope we hear some good news this week.

As a lefty, I applaud Ruger for what it has done over the past 3-4 years in the bolt action arena. The short action Hawkeye is a well made rifle with an excellent stock that is proving its worth in the field. The Ruger American Rifle, even as inexpensive as it is, shoots much better than it should. Though I've not purchased one, the 44 Special in the GP100 should be an excellent sidearm that would serve to protect or put food on the table.
Thank you Ruger.

A tang safety m77, Walnut 22-250 in the 5-6lb range would be nice!

Hey Ruger, Bring back the 358 Win.!

How about a Mini 450? A Mini 14 in 450 Bushmaster.

I only own 3 handguns at this point.

Ruger MKII target .22lr
Ruger SR1911.45acp
Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 9mm

I've never got rid of a gun that I have acquired but if someone traded me a GP100 .44 special for the 1911, I'd probably do it. Not that I don't like it but once I got the Shield, I'd rather focus on shooting that than the 1911. Not sure why. They are both very accurate. The GP100 appeals to me though.

Might be what the Front stuffers said when the 03 came along too. LOL

What problems did you have with yours? I have one. It's a a bit rough around the edges but serviceable.

I would buy a Ruger American in 17HM2.....

If it's in the Model 77, I'll buy the first one I see!

Did you know that Darrick is getting Ruger to do him a special run of them?

Must be something in the water

Firearms manufacturing is a very tough business model. Starting at suggested retail, the normal mark to suggested retail is 24%. The distributor or suggested wholesale margin is normally 20%. Then you have Federal tax of 11% on long guns and in the case of a handgun the tax is 10%.

In simple terms, a long gun with a factory suggested retail of 500.00 nets the factory about 274.00. The rule of thumb in manufacturing, a firearm selling for 274.00, must have a manufacturing cost, including manufacturing division profit, of 167.00. The other 167.00 of the 274.00 is marketing and other operational overhead.

I am amazed by Ruger when I consider their retail price points and what their manufacturing cost point has to be. Many folks state they want more attention to manufacturing detail by gun manufacturers, but when it comes down to voting, they vote with their wallet.

The most amazing thing now taking place in firearms manufacturing is the demise of revolvers. Because of cost, Smith has almost given up. Ruger's revolvers are rapidly increasing in cost. poly framed auto loaders are cheap to make compared to revolvers and as buyers vote with their wallet, revolvers will become more expensive with fewer choices for wheel gun lovers.

[quote=Rooster7]I only own 3 handguns at this point. [quote]
Damm - I've got 3 handguns in the ranch-truck, at this point! Not to mention in the house, or "The Warden" 's truck!

A compact threaded American in 17 WSM would be sweet.

Revolvers, in many ways, are a "collector/enthusiast" market, now. What "collector" wants a Smith with the danged lock hole in it??? LE doesn't even look at revolvers anymore, and I'd bet 90-95% of the personal/home defense crowd goes shopping looking for only semiauto, without even the thought of getting a revolver.

They are all just headed in the direction of ergonomic perfection.

We should set up a "Go Gun Me" page for that poor soul.

That is oogly!

I think it's all about planned obsolescence. Hunting rifles will easily last for 100 yers or more and there's been only slight improvement in cartridges since WWII. So you've got to convince the users that they need a new rifle somehow--plastic stock, tacticool, or whatever. Never mind that the 6.5 Creedmore has little or nothing over the .270. If you can convince people that the .270 is gay but the 6.5 Creed is the cat's ass, you can get some of their money.

I have always been a traditional rifle guy; however, I won't disparage anyone for what they like to shoot. The way I see it, the more active shooters this country has the better, so I don't care what folks want to shoot as long as they are shooting. There are still plenty of classically styled rifles to choose from if Ruger decides to limit that type of production.

When I was growing up, the lever actions, Marlin and Winchester 30-30's were the cheap deer rifles. Bolt guns were more expensive, and mostly used for bigger game than deer or for long range shooting. Now lever actions can cost more than cheap bolt guns that are accurate and good enough for deer. AR's are the rage, like someone said, because of men trained on them in the military the last 50 years.

That said, I would like a Winchester Mauser action with claw extractor in a 375 H&H, a stainless Marlin 44 magnum.

I have AR's and traditional rifles, but also revolvers and lever guns. I like stainless with either black stocks or laminated wood stocks. I want all weather practicality, but some traditional look also.

...with an easy change barrel, mag inlet (insert?...perhaps different inserts to adapt to most any common mag...Ruger, 1911, etc), and bolt (bcg?) to allow it to change between any common auto round with accompanying glock mag. Should be able to accept anything from the compact (26, 27, etc) mags up to the longest 20/21, 17/19, etc mags. ~16-20" stainless barrel.

I like walnut and steel firearms and they don't have to be high dollar. One of my favorite rifles is an old pristine Ted Williams Model 100 (Winchester 94) that I put Lyman sights on. I also like S&W Model 10's. I've got a few of them.

But the firearms I keep handy won't win any prizes for beauty. A Kel-Tec SU16 stays close by as does a Kahr CT9.

Most of my firearms could be classified as toys,..but a few of them are tools.

And I hope Smith & Wesson's are better than the last 10 years. I've purchased three S&W revolvers over the last 10 years and every single one of them had to go back to the factory - 2 out of the box, 1 after I shot it and it stung my face with powder residue.

You are absolutely right.



Why do you say that? The S&W catalog is chock full of about every conceivable combination of revolvers.

Just got an email with a link to Ruger's new offerings.

Ruger new products 2018

Nothing of interest for me but the Redhawk is a surprise.

Since there is no 10mm GP100 I will keep chasing the brass outta my G20 and the SP101 9mm offers nothing over my G19.

I agree. On another note, a great American company announces that they will be putting more choices out for our sport and so many find some way to bitc h about it. Geez people lighten up a bit

If what we do is a sport, this is an athlete.

the new Super Redhawk in 10mm...




I'm still waiting for the SP101 in .357 with 4" half lug barrel

I don't know if gunchamp was referring to my post but I am not bitching, there are a lot of options and and I agree that more options that entice buyers is good.

I know many don't like the SRH but I do and that is an option.

Good link. Thanks.
(that gal has some bicepts)
I noticed that very little new this year in their better grade centerfire rifles.
I think the reason for that is that they had made several new additions in those product lines in the previous couple years and are now upgrading other product lines.

I wasnt refering to you. Just a general statement

I sure would have liked to have seen a GP100 in 10mm. I'd really like a 2.5 incher with the round butt and adjustable sights.