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Originally Posted by RickyD
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I know I've seen youtubes with non-leo/non-military folks shooting chain guns. I don't believe those existed before 1986, did they? May be a money talks thing.


Has nothing to do with "money talks"......I have shot lots of machine guns that were built after '86, but they are not transferrable and I can't own them. I have friends that hold NFA dealer (SOT) or manufacturer licenses and they can legally possess/own post '86 machine guns under certain circumstances. These guns are known as "post '86 dealer samples".

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/atf-national-firearms-act-handbook-chapter-7/download

I doubt owning those licenses are either easy or cheap. And what is real money to some is small change to others. So, I may been somewhat correct.
Went out with a C-3 dealer friend a couple of weeks ago to let the kids shoot some MG's. Had an M60E6, BREN, Bulgarian AK-74, M4, G-33, G-36, AR-18, UZI, Sterling Mk IV, and a few others. These were all dealer samples. A dealer sample for something like the AK-74 would be under $2,000.00, whereas a pre-'86 transferable version of the exact same rifle could go for over $20.000. Transferable belt feed guns can get way up there in price.


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Originally Posted by RickyD

I doubt owning those licenses are either easy or cheap. And what is real money to some is small change to others. So, I may been somewhat correct.


Why don't you find out instead of acting like you know what you are talking about??

If you can get an FFL, you can get a license to deal in NFA items. The "Special Occupational Tax" required to deal in NFA items is $500/year. The SOT for a title 2 manufacturer is $500/year for businesses doing less that $500,000/year in gross receipts.

If you can afford to feed a machine gun, $500/year isn't much of a hinderance.......and the tax is generally deductible since the license is required to conduct business.




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Originally Posted by kalbrecht
Is it possible to build a "ghost" full auto AR 15? By that I mean take a 80% lower, machine it for full auto parts, install the correct parts and have a legal unregistered full auto AR 15?


Nope.

Can't be done.

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