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Right after WW1 most all the rifle manufactures were trying to sell more "MODERN" rifles,Winchester and Marlin dropped the "18" in front of their model numbers ,and Savage did aso. Basically how to make an older rifle design more modern drop a few numbers. Same guns just weren't made in the 1800's any more !!!! 
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From the price lists and catalogs: In 1921, we had: Model 1899 Solid Frame Rifle, 22" barrel, shotgun butt Model 1899 Solid Frame Rifle, 26" barrel, rifle butt Model 1899 Take-Down Rifles, 22" barrel, shotgun butt <etc> In 1923 we had: Model 99C Model 99A Model 99F Why they changed is obvious as far as marketing, I can't believe they didn't do it before. But it's also obvious they weren't going to be confused by calling your gun an 1899 or a 99. If you called in with your old 1899, they were going to figure out what you had really quick. For 21 years they'd been cataloguing the 1899's by all the information WE need to help people identify their guns.
“ The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
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Rory, I'm in full agreement with everything you said. I have thought for some time that the change from 1899 to 99 was strictly a marketing gadget. But why keep stamping Model 1899 on the receiver rings? They made the stamps and were too cheep to throw them away until they wore out? Who knows? "With Savage never say never." David
wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]
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Rory, I'm in full agreement with everything you said. I have thought for some time that the change from 1899 to 99 was strictly a marketing gadget. But why keep stamping Model 1899 on the receiver rings? They made the stamps and were too cheep to throw them away until they wore out? Who knows? "With Savage never say never." David Why stamp 99M on 99DL's and 99PE's? It's the same thing. Savage just didn't care if you called their guns 1899's or 99's in the 1920's. They weren't making a statement by stamping 1899 on the gun, they were probably just too lazy to get new stamps.
“ The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
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That 99M thing sure causes a lot of confusion among new collectors. It makes no sense at all. The PE's and DE's are stamped 99M and they are certainly different than the 99DL. Savage must have wised up by 1975 when they introduced the 99CD. It had a Monte Carlo stock but at least they didn't call it 99M. David
wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]
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