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Only practical if you are gifted one or find one at a price you simply can't pass up.
Can't see any reason to buy or have one built as there are better practical choices on the market.
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You kidding me? Heck ya, get one in a old Mod. 70 Super Grade and then go buy another in Three Seven Five H&H and look in the mirror at a happy man!
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Love my Sako FN actioned 300 H&H mag. Shoots as well as any in my collection. Factory ammo is available and cost a bit, have plenty of brass and components so don't care.
Never take life to seriously, after all ,no one gets out of it alive.
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I bought one 8 months ago to convert to 7mmSTW, but I have since found some better candidates. I bought 300 H&H dies and brass... maybe I will shoot it. A friend of mine told me about a trip to Africa and all the things he shot with a 300 H&H.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps
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jwall- *** 3100 guy***
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A fellow I knew told me that when you pick a wife think of a station wagon. None of your friends will want to drive it. It is the most practical car to own. If you pick a sports car, you have no idea how many miles are on it and everyone wants to take it for a test drive. And it isn’t very practical. I think he was preparing me for when I met his wife.
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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jwall- *** 3100 guy***
A Flat Trajectory is Never a Handicap
Speed is Trajectory's Friend !!
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I've got a semi-custom Rem 700 in .300 H&H that is quickly becoming one of my favorite rifles. I've only killed one elk and a caribou with it, but I really like it so far. It's a long round, even for a magnum so using long, high B/C bullets isn't practical at all if you want rounds in the magazine. It isn't powder efficient for the speeds it gets either.
It is, however, nostalgic. If that kind of thing is important to you than by all means go for it. It is no better or worse than any flavor of 7 or 300 mags from a practical standpoint.
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I've got a semi-custom Rem 700 in .300 H&H that is quickly becoming one of my favorite rifles. I've only kind one elk and a caribou with it, but I really like it so far. It's a long round, even for a magnum so using long, high B/C bullets isn't practical at all if you want rounds in the magazine. It isn't powder efficient for the speeds it gets either.
It is, however, nostalgic. If that kind of thing is important to you than by all means go for it. It is no better or worse than any flavor of 7 or 300 mags from a practical standpoint. Please elaborate a bit.
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Mathman, I went and took a look at my reloading data, cause you made me question myself.
With Reloader 22, my H&H is using 70 grains for 2985 FPS while a friend's .30-06 I was playing with was getting 2750 FPS with 62 grains. That's only 235 extra FPS for 8 grains (or 12%) more powder. I guess it is a bit subjective as to whether or not that extra FPS is worth the extra cost in powder and possibly recoil, blast, action length, etc.
With IMR 4831, my .300 H&H uses 73 grains to reach right at 3000 FPS, where my .300 Win is (or was, since I gave the rifle to my nephew) using 74 grains to reach right around the same speed, so these two are pretty close, though both use a lot more powder than -06 or 308 sized rounds. All three of these rifles were shooting the same 180 grain bullet when I wrote all this down.
These are small sample sizes, so if you have contrasting notes, I'd like to hear your thoughts. My H&H does have 2 more inches of barrel than the other two rifles though. I am not sure how much of a difference that makes.
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My dad, the most frugal, utilitarian man on the planet once told me you didn't have to need a gun to buy one, you just had to want it. If you wanted to consider practicality or utility, fine, do so. But, those two variables didn't really matter...the only things that mattered were "want" and having enough money to buy the gun (of course).
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my bother has a Winchester model 70 super grade made in 1948 in 300 H&H, nothing special but way cool! we were at are favorite gun store checking velocity on the factory boxes of factory loaded ammo and with a 180gr bullet, between the 300 win mag and the300 Winchester super silly mag and the 300 H&H is only 20 feet per second.
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I think I would own a 300 H&H just because of the cool factor!
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Me too.... Even though I like my 300 WSM it just doesn't have that throwback, retro, coolness factor that the .300 H & H does.
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Are there practical reasons to own a .300 H&H? Absolutely not.....in fact, there's little to no reason to own any .30 cal larger than the .30-06....the magnums (all of them) are simply overkill designed to collect hunters dollars.
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I think I’d prefer a 30 Super, myself.
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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I have a 700 magnum action and a 24" SS 30-06 bbl that is begging to become a 300H&H "parts gun" in an old Brown Precision stock. It won't be pretty.
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I’m thinking about getting one. See what you done!
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Love my super 30's .Still have 2 sold my Ruger # 1 on this site.
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Mathman, I went and took a look at my reloading data, cause you made me question myself.
With Reloader 22, my H&H is using 70 grains for 2985 FPS while a friend's .30-06 I was playing with was getting 2750 FPS with 62 grains. That's only 235 extra FPS for 8 grains (or 12%) more powder. I guess it is a bit subjective as to whether or not that extra FPS is worth the extra cost in powder and possibly recoil, blast, action length, etc.
With IMR 4831, my .300 H&H uses 73 grains to reach right at 3000 FPS, where my .300 Win is (or was, since I gave the rifle to my nephew) using 74 grains to reach right around the same speed, so these two are pretty close, though both use a lot more powder than -06 or 308 sized rounds. All three of these rifles were shooting the same 180 grain bullet when I wrote all this down.
These are small sample sizes, so if you have contrasting notes, I'd like to hear your thoughts. My H&H does have 2 more inches of barrel than the other two rifles though. I am not sure how much of a difference that makes.
I appreciate your answer. I asked you to elaborate because I wasn't sure if your comment was about the efficiency of 300 mags vs smaller rounds (which you have made clear here) or if it was the H&H vs other 300 mags. I used to gig my 257 Weatherby shooting friend about how my 250 Savage got better than 80% of the velocity with less than half the powder.
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