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I want to thank all the guy's who have asked me for more information on the new 2018 BLACK FX1000 scope. Here is all the information I have. Feel free to drop send me a PM if there's something else you need. Hopefully we are a month away from this scope hitting the stores. Thank you for your patience.

well I guess the good thing is they didn't put a freaking 34 mm tube on the thing. whenever I see that its like a guy running 22" dub wheels with a lifted truck. 34mm tube scopes are dumb. the 4-16 models would be better as SFP, also where is this scope made? because YES that matters.

also why isn't the windage turrets capped, everyone is asking for this, nightforce does it with the ATACR

The scope is made in the Philippines. The precursor to the BLACK FX1000 is the BLACK X1000 which is SFP. There's always someone out there who likes the 22"dub's and someone who doesn't . Nikon is making quality scopes with feature's that shooter's want and need to be successful at a fair price.

Thanks for posting all the info on your new line of scopes. I appreciate that it takes quite a bit of time and R & D to put something like this together, but is there any future plans to create a scope with similar features (zero stop, FFP, precise and repeatable adjustments) in a smaller package, with less magnification, and perhaps a simpler reticle? I know a scope like that has often been discussed on this forum and others, and I'd expect it would be popular with many hunters and shooters. As a hunter, I would love a scope with a precise repeatable adjustments, zero stop, a simple reticle with a few (ideally mil) windage and elevation holdover points, FFP, and relatively compact size. A capped windage, or lockable turret would also be a fantastic feature. I bring it up because this new line of scopes, seems to check many of the boxes, but it is just too much scope for what I'm personally looking for. A smaller scope, perhaps with a 40ish mm objective and magnification range with a low end of 1-3 and a high end of 8-10, in this line could be very popular. I know I would buy one, especially if the pricing matches the rest of your line, and is in the $700 range. The other comparable scopes produced by your competitors fall short in one area or another (price, size, turrets, SFP, etc.)

that is what I guessed, notice how the PST 2 this scope and the burris XTR, all have very similar knurling on the turrets. they must all be coming from the same Philippine factory. covered windage turrets should really be done on all scopes. no one is cranking on those windage knobs

COR, Thank you for the question/suggestion. I have asked the head of R/D at Nikon to follow up. My guess is that Nikon will continue to put out quality scopes that you guys want for a long time coming. Hopefully Jer. will have time to answer your question. Much appreciated.

wonder why LOW in japan isn't building some of these scopes.

Cost.

Thanks bman. Again, I appreciate the work you guys are doing and just figured I'd put it out there...I'm not an expert but I believe a quality scope like that would be a win-win

Cummins, we have the 4-16 available in SFP in the X1000 line. The FX1000 is all FFP. The windage isn't capped because this scope isn't $2k+. We could have done in but it would require an entire new scope chassis and that would have doubled the price of the scope. We will have a lot more to offer in the future but were trying to bring the most scope for the money of anyone.

I'll definitely keep it in mind, I think a 2-10x42 or 2-12x42 would be a nice addition down the road

Also everyone should keep in mind with the image posted earlier that the travel numbers are about 15-20% conservative.

thanks for piping in, an explanation is always nice. I do think across the board capping the windage would make many happy and not offend the tactical crowd that buys alot of these type scopes. I too would also like to see a 3-12 ish model, also something with super reliable tracking, glass I don't really care about, prostaff or 10 year old buck master glass would make me happy if the scope tracked right and true.

This.

Jesus, this has been asked for about 10,000 times on this forum. To date, only Nightforce and Bushnell LRHS have seemed to figure it out, though SWFA and the SS line come close. I keep seeing manufacturers/reps keep come on this site and telling us what they have and touting their wares. Just once I’d like to see one ask us what “we” want and then make it. There is more hunting/shooting knowledge on this site than anywhere else in the world I’d argue, but manufacturers don’t seem smart enough to take advantage of that.

For the record, my vote is to recreate the LRHS under 20 ounces and under a grand and you can likely sell a couple of thousand just on this site alone.

I cannot disagree with this. I am very interested by the FX....the only thing that will derail me would be if I lose self control before they are released and pick up an LRTSi.

4-16 has my interest piqued. While I'd prefer a capped windage its not a deal breaker. Black electrical tape or shrink wrap will secure it just fine.

The two posts following my own are illustrating my point.

Dave

The BLACK X and FX1000 scopes come in around 23.5 oz so hopefully that will be acceptable to most ? As I have said on this site many times, if you don't ask you don't get. I write down suggestion's that you guys have for feature's you would like to see and sometimes something entirely new. Stranger things.......

Everyone agrees of the capped windage turret. Reliable adjustments vs the best glass is up there too.

In order of importance....

Reliable adjustment
Reliable adjustment
Capped windage
Reliable adjustment
Weight 20 pounces or less
Reliable adjustment
Under a thousand dollars
Reliable adjustment
Normal magnification (2-7, 3-9, 3-12, 6x) with objective 44 or less
Reliable adjustment
Glass quality

Think...SWFA SS 6x or 3-9 with capped windage, in addition to the LRHS already mentioned.

. Yep, yep and yep

Just so there is no confusion, some of you would like to see a capped horizontal adjustment turret? Thank you for your input.

Pretty much all of us.... at least from something used mainly for hunting purposes.

The tactical guys aren’t cranking those windage knobs either. And on the chance they want to it’s easy to make it capped lower profile so you could still finger adjust it easily

When will the 1-4x24 M-TACTICAL MK1-MOA scopes be available?

just looked at nikons site, from a marketing stand point it appears we are seeing a disconnect with what many want and what many people actually buy. Nikon has a few scopes with what they call the XR turret, which for me makes a whole hell of alot of sense. Its basically pretty similar or a competitor to leupolds CDS setup. The problem for me is I have never been able to understand exactly how that setup works on nikons. does it have a rev limiter like leupold does or does it let you go past one turn, or is there no limiter at all? I love leupolds CDS setup for a hunting scope. its pretty much ideal. The problem is leupold scopes are shat, and not reliable.

I suspect nikon isn't selling the XR turret scopes like hotcakes. The problem with promoting them more and offering more of them, is there is a huge segment of the market that will not take a tactical/heavy duty/ dialing scope seriously unless it has big ole knobs sticking out. Heck companies even sell scopes with 34mm tubes and larger. I mean why not just make a 40 mm tube scope. bigger is better right? again its like a giant lifted truck running 22" dubs for wheels. its all show and no go. I have to laugh when I see 34mm tube scopes and they offer no more elevation travel than a competitors 30 mm offering, ITS ALL MARKETING!

I think nightforce pulls off the capped windage turret with the ATACR line because of their reputation in the marketplace AND well lets face it the 34 mm tube in the ATACR line is MARKETING TOO, bushnell the same way with the LRHS line, they have a reputation they have cultivated with their high end optics that keeps growing. But the problem there is the company has been run into the ground by private equity firms horse trading the company. vortex has replaced them pretty much everywhere on the retail level and no one is really even able to see their high end offerings.

another undeniable fact, the long range hunting scope market is very very small, G7 and huskemaw are the only 2 companies that have offered products specific for long range hunters, G7 appears to no longer have a deal or the deal they had with nightforce and huskemaw well, you know, I do think I am going to buy one of those and test it just for the hell of it, provided I can buy it right and not take a beating on resale if I don't keep it. but despite the ridiculous name and a TV show that left out alot of important details, its still a scope that should check every box for a long range hunter, provided it tracks and operates well mechanically.

so nikon I dunno what to tell you, figure out a way to gain a reputation for reliable mechanical adjustments, So far the path to that is only a couple ways, a ton of money spent on a optics in europe which is going to mean a scope probably over 2k, IMO the market is saturated there. OR a scope made in japan, I don't trust Philippine manufacture yet, maybe at some point I could and I do think they are close.

just some random ramblings.

on edit I do have a monarch 3. 2.5-10 with mil dot reticle on an AR that I have used for a couple years. I have been happy with the scope. it is phillipine manufacture but I don't ask that scope to do a whole lot, simply hold zero I don't dial it. I do use the mil dot reticle for some hold overs, but there again that scope is probably too boring for your average tacticoool guy. I generally do like nikon's optical formula, that being, eye relief, FOV and ease of getting behind. glass seems to always be pretty darn good on your scopes too.

Steel., The M-Tactical 1-4x24 MOA should be out in March with everything else from what I have heard.
Cummins, The BLACK FX1000 is a heck of a scope made by Nikon. I think when it finally hits retailers I think you will only hear possitive comments about it. The BLACK X1000 received excellent reviews including tracking tests. Some guys won't be happy unless they spend $2K and that's fine. Some guy's will always find a fault with equipement other's use and that's fine too. I won't waste time or threads trying to convert you, I can only give you the information I have and if it works for you,great, if not, oh well.


Steel, This info might be helpful to you.

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums...ot%202018-02-07%20at%2011.13.26%20AM.png

I know the scope I referenced has an MOA reticle (looks like 2 MOA per hash). The website doesn't state, but it looks like the turrets are 1/2 MOA per click?

Never mind, I saw my answer at the bottom of the pic. Thanks

You are correct. If you look at the bottom of the info I posted it say's adjustment gradient 1/2 moa. My son loves using the Black Force1000 1-4x24 with illuminated Speedforce reticle in carbine competition's and for hog hunting.

Yeah, I didn't scroll all the way down.

Yeah, that one is a little too bushy for me. I can roll with the hash marks. It's for a bolt action 223 that will live in a UTV.

Anybody try any of the Black line of Nikons ?

Test the tracking etc. ?

Quite a few reviews over on Snipers Hide. Some of it not good...

John

I hope this helps a bit. A guy I helped out on The Hide sent this to me regarding Nikon's BLACK FX1000 4-16x50 Illuminated MRAD. I just picked one up to go on a 6.5CM but with TX having record high temps it may be another week or so till I get to the range.

As promised I took the scope out today after initially zeroing it a few days ago and shot a a tall target test and box test.

A few days ago, when I first zeroed it, I did have some issues setting the zero stop when the internal zero stop ring did not want to spin down to the bottom after loosening the three screws securing it in place. It is my belief the zero stop may have originally been installed on the spindle slightly cross threaded. Fortunately, after backing it out some and screwing it back down using a little extra force I was able to get it past the rough spot and got it to spin all the way down to properly set the zero stop.

Today, I shot a tall target test (0 to +10.0 Mil elevation) as well as a box test (-3.0 to +3.0 Mil of windage). The scope did very, very well! In all cases the differences from expected to actual were less than 0.5% (well inside this shooters ability) and the scope returned to its original zero no matter how I dialed it going out, shooting, and coming back to (0, 0). This unit is definitively a keeper as I can't find any fault(s) anywhere... hopefully it wii keep working well and I get to enjoy it for a long time.