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Social media empowers the weak, just as guns do.
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This happens and everybody reacts according to whatever their agenda is.
The gun control people are like "ban 'em all". Well, Paddler's post about classifying AR's and the like as Class 3 weapons might even win popular support across America right now. Most people aren't firearms enthusiasts and they are sick of these things. This cannot go on before there's a mass reaction, might even lose our side an election. At nineteen, the shooter could have bought his own AR, people will take note of that.
Other's say "he's an illegal!", "he's a Dreamer!", might have been, maybe not, if so this might be the first school shooting ever perpetrated by one. Recall that the one at Red Lake Minnesota was perpetrated by a friggin' American Indian against American Indians, so I dunno that point of origin was a factor.
I'm hearing the shooter was a foster child, tho' at least one parent was still alive. If so it is very possible his early childhood was truly abysmal for him to be removed from his mother's custody. Drug/alcohol use during pregnancy would be a given, sexual abuse would be likely, picture the classic cruel '50's experiment of a monkey infant left alone in a cage turning out psychotic and ya ain't far off.
At this point tho', I have no idea why this guy did what he did and what twisted him.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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The shooter is a 19 year old registered Democrat that showed interest and communism and ISIS terrorism on his social media. If democrats would stop shooting people, gun crimes in this country would be reduced by 95%. I have wondered what our "gun violence" statistics would look like if you removed suicide and non whites from the mix. And also remove justifiable self defense. The suicide component raises the toll by 2/3 I've heard. Without all that figured in we would be one of the most peaceful places on earth.
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The shooter is a 19 year old registered Democrat that showed interest and communism and ISIS terrorism on his social media. If democrats would stop shooting people, gun crimes in this country would be reduced by 95%. I have wondered what our "gun violence" statistics would look like if you removed suicide and non whites from the mix. And also remove justifiable self defense. The suicide component raises the toll by 2/3 I've heard. Without all that figured in we would be one of the most peaceful places on earth. I have no idea how many of these school massacres have taken place since Columbine, nineteen years ago. Right now the demographic responsible is overwhelmingly young White male. I can't see where that matters.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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The solution is keeping semiautomatic weapons out of the hands of mentally ill losers. Reclassify semiauto weapons that accept detachable magazines and use centerfire ammunition as Class 3, subject to all applicable qualifications and restrictions. There's more blood on the hands of the NRA and Republicans today, and clearly many here on the fire. I think it's called dereliction of duty. How about the liberal policies that have created and maintain a perpetual underclass? The underclass communities are a war zone, with shooting and killings almost daily.. I reckon you are giving a pass to those that created this, huh? I’m not surprised.
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There have been 25 school shootings since Columbine with 98 deaths, I read that some where in the rest of this garbage.
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I bet the shooter is a Jew.
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I think we need some big prayers all around! Victims, relatives, friends and people who survived! Another big prayer for this carnage to stop! Amen!
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Social media empowers the weak, just as guns do. Really?
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There have been 25 school shootings since Columbine with 98 deaths, I read that some where in the rest of this garbage. In Chicago, this is a pretty calm month.
There are 2 rules to success:
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Social media empowers the weak, just as guns do. Really? Absolutely
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
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Those liberal policies are all about the using "Useful idiots" to further your agenda. They create the problem and then use that to promote their "solution"...... Ever notice how our fearless, crime fighting heroes will go after hard working, law abiding citizens while in the most crime infested, violent, chitholes it's still "business as usual" and nothing seems to ever change.
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it's interesting to note, given all the other stuff about this guy, is the news this morning. that some time ago, he posted on a website, about what he intended to do. the website gave, and was interviewed, at the time by the F.B.I. And nothing, after that interview, but authorities knew before the fact, this guy was a problematic wacko.
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The solution is keeping semiautomatic weapons out of the hands of mentally ill losers. Reclassify semiauto weapons that accept detachable magazines and use centerfire ammunition as Class 3, subject to all applicable qualifications and restrictions. There's more blood on the hands of the NRA and Republicans today, and clearly many here on the fire. I think it's called dereliction of duty. Good luck just getting the 740/742/7400s out of ME, NH and VT. Once you cross that bridge, go to work on ARs.
�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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Social media empowers the weak, just as guns do. Really? Absolutely You could substitute just about anything for "guns"... Horses, a one ton dually, a spear, a knife, or a roll of quarters in a sock, or alcohol and drugs.
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So how did this miscreant manage to legally buy a firearm, and was it in fact, a legal purchase? Not a challenge, just a question that, if it was answered, I missed.
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So how did this miscreant manage to legally buy a firearm, and was it in fact, a legal purchase? Not a challenge, just a question that, if it was answered, I missed. Probably because he was never convicted of a felony, and any time he spent on professional mental health treatment was not reported.
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Columbine was 19yrs ago. Nobody has come up with a solution yet. I don't expect that to change.
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The solution is keeping semiautomatic weapons out of the hands of mentally ill losers. Reclassify semiauto weapons that accept detachable magazines and use centerfire ammunition as Class 3, subject to all applicable qualifications and restrictions. There's more blood on the hands of the NRA and Republicans today, and clearly many here on the fire. I think it's called dereliction of duty. Spoken like a true flaming liberal pos Democrat... Gawd - the idiocy spouted by these a-holes is so laughably and incredibly stupid...
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I don't get it. Where does this type of behavior come from? You can point fingers all you want, and say bullying does this, or that or Video games do this or that. I got bullied, but I hit back, Yes I got in trouble for it at times, got my rearend kicked a few times, but it wasn't long after , I stopped getting messed with. It is called suck it up and deal with it.
Yes there are evil people in the world, however in my opinion it takes some doing to get that evil to manifest.
When I was 18 /19 years old, I was more concerned about where my next piece of azz was coming from, or how I was going to score some beer for the weekend. How was I going to cut out of work to hunt or fish and still pay rent.
Also I blame the media for super sensationalizing every tragedy that goes on these days. Yes we need to be informed of what is going on, but news anchors need to state the news, and not express their opinions.
Take a look at ringworm's post. There is a big part of your answer. Another part is the dumbing down of students in public schools, no real incentive to excel above other students, and add to all this with no real consequences for your actions. Hell, there is a list a mile long. Oh yes I agree, the dumbing down of the schools, also the damn participation trophy syndrome. IF YOU LOSE, YOU DON"T GET A TROPHY!!!! Man, the no fear of consequences is a big one! I got in trouble once when I was 16, yes handcuff kind of trouble, but the cop took me home ( he knew my Dad). I was begging the cop to take me to jail over taking me home. Why you ask, because I knew I was in the wrong and did it anyway, and in my mind sitting in the a jail cell was far more favorable than the whooping I was going to receive when I got home. One other thing, the punishment when I was growing up did not end with the whooping. Because privileges got taken away for a determined amount of time after the whooping. It was the whopping, then the restriction of privileges, then came the sit and talk about what you did, why it was wrong, and the understanding that , that kind of behavior was not acceptable. here are a couple of really good posts... in our days, we were held accountable for our actions and did not get all the sympathy routine dished out by democRATs and leftists...and their passing the blame onto someone else.... kids like this punk aren't held accountable whatsoever, until he goes for the big time... like this shooting.. and then the leftists love to make a laundry list of all the "handicaps" this person has had to deal with... painting it as not his fault.. its not society's fault anymore either.... its Donald Trump's fault, its the Republican Party's fault, its all Republicans in the entire country's fault...its the NRA's fault the list is endless... and then how did this punk get a gun??? they ask...well he did so by easily figuring out how to circumvent all the laws the liberal left keeps coming out with to disarm society.... democRATs secretly look forward to these kind of events... deaths and mass shootings, give fuel to their political agenda they live for this crap.. and "its for the children, or its to make our society safter" isn't their agenda... their agenda is to use these as excuses to disarm the public, so they can create their socialist utopia where they control the most minute part of everyone's every day life..and have no real threat against it. NO the liberal left and ALL of their failures are who to blame for this shooting and the ones that proceed it and those that will follow it...if anyone has blood on their hands, its the democRATs and their blind followers.... let them be accountable instead of passing blame to everyone else on the planet...
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“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
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