Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire let's educate the rank & file on ar-15 rifles.

back in the day, under the reign of terror of the war criminal johnson, i was introduced to the m-16 5.56 (or something like that) combat rifle.

we learned to operate it, clean it, and place it back into the armory with the other full-auto equipment.

later, after ETS, i priced a colt semi-auto .223, and the price was too high.

now, basic .223 guns are a dime a dozen, garden variety.

what does ar-15 mean to the average citizen?

not assault rifle, not automatic rifle.

let's start or begin there.

to many, it's an evil doer that exists only to kill people, especially school kids. A war machine that should not be available to the public. That's what I was told yesterday.

The rank and file don't want to be educated. They want to be led down the primrose path.

the DI's that i served under at fort jackson, SC, didn't mind me shooting left-handed. just do it.

some 40 plus years later, the technology lives on. no replacements. just semi-auto now.

everyone, from the both the left & the right are duly concerned. no doubt.

past Governor was fond of saying we need a higher quality prisoner?

mine......although a 300 BLK was built from the ground up..........

just another precision tool in the safe.........

Just another hammer!

An improvement over the earlier hammer. Much like the current I phone is an improvement over the rotary dial landline phone.

I laugh when the press calls it powerful. The 223 is a mediocre varmint round, outclassed by many other cartridges. It is questionable at best for deer sized game, even illegal in some areas because of the lack of power. If someone suggested using it for bear hunting, they would be rediculed. But, it is among the most common choices for home defense against potentially a drugged up person seeking to harm or kill you or your family.

It will blow a hole through both shoulders of a 200 lb pig at 200 yards. That a 62 Barnes. I wouldn’t want to get shot with one!!

I have a Colt 6920 - never been used in a crime, but it's hell on coyotes.

The lame stream media likes to refer to them as "Assault Rifles".

The AR designation is from the original manufacture - The Armalite Rifle Company. Go figure.

thank you for helping to set the record straight. we all knew the answer was out there.

the media, well paid, and organized to be anti-gun will never know the truth.

there's a communication issue. and the rank & file are working hard.

Well it just looks evil .

Why should anyone be allowed to have an evil rifle ?

i think johnson, the demo, was the purveyor of that technology, wasn't he?

hell, we could have used mausers in vietnam, or just stayed the hell out of that place?

what we've got here is a technology on the one hand, and a bunch or a few of killers on the other hand?

Ok, here goes. . . . . . I shoot trap, skeet, sporting clays and 5-stand. I also shoot in a .22 gallery league (indoors) in the winter time. I also am a very serious long range benchrest shooter. I also hunt deer and pheasants. I actually shoot (a lot) and am not some internet cowboy. Point is, I don't really NEED an AR15 to do any of the shooting things that I enjoy. I do own a couple of AR's and do shoot them occasionally but, if they weren't there, it wouldn't be a terrible inconvenience to me. I simply throw this out there to see what the dialog is on the whole matter. I will say that I am vehemently opposed to any 19 year old kid being able to walk into a gun shop and plunk down 4-5 hundred bucks and walk out with an AR. Looking forward to any and all comments on this.

In function it really isn't any different than any other semi auto, take away the AR's and the people that don't do anything wrong with them will be the only ones to lose them. Wouldn't have made a difference if it were a Rem. 750 or a BAR...if people want to scream about gun control, why not start with enforcing the laws we have now?

Banning this gun, that gun or a whole group of guns won't solve a damn thing. What this country really NEEDS to start with is take a long hard look at what our society has become, more and more kids are programmed to be desensitized to violent. It's all over, the cost of living keeps both parents out of the home working in most families(I thank God that I have a job that pays well enough for my wife to stay home with the kids), many more kids are raised in broken homes than ever before and violence is glorified in TV, Movies, Music and video game ect.

We don't have a society with a gun problem, we have a broken society lacking in moral compass...correct that and the problem will quickly get back under control.

Since you asked, depends on the 19 year old kid. Wouldn't have a problem with any of the kids we graduated through 4-H Shooting Sports.

(And would 21 rather 19 make you feel any better?)

Me too. I think a 19 year old kid needs to build his first AR-15 from scratch.

Then what guns, exactly, do you think a 19 year old adult SHOULD be allowed to legally purchase in a gun shop?

By all means educate those who want to be educated. Unfortunately I'm guessing that's relatively few. I think most would rather run around with their hair on fire, expressing their rage (Hannity calls it "moral justification" or something) than do the hard work of critically analyzing the problem and finding a workable solution.

That's because most people would rather do the easy work of 'doing something' to feel good even if it amounts to nothing - as do so many laws we have, and all of the laws that are ignored through omission - which so many tragedies seem to be facilitated by recently.


I wonder how many young minds are presently working on or play with remotely activated devices? You know guns aren't the only methods persons of ill intent will use.(Plenty of evidence in the public domain!)