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I have a line on a Kimber Montana in 7 WSM.
What is the good and the bad??
I figure if I don't like it, I can probably list it here and move it along.
What would be a good price?
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What would be a good price?
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Depending on condition, $800-900 would be a good price. They used to command a bit of a premium, but that seems to have faded. The search function is not being friendly right now, but there was one on here recently in nib or very good condition that sat for a bit and eventually sold for less than 1k iirc. Perhaps soneone (Don?!?) has it tagged and can link it for you.
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What would be a good price?
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Depending on condition, $800-900 would be a good price. They used to command a bit of a premium, but that seems to have faded. The search function is not being friendly right now, but there was one on here recently in nib or very good condition that sat for a bit and eventually sold for less than 1k iirc. Perhaps soneone (Don?!?) has it tagged and can link it for you. Yea,I would try to get it for about $700. I passed on one for that last year. Probably should have bought it but was tight on funds at that moment and I don't buy toys from the general fund. At Around $700 you could get rid of it if you didn't like it and not be out money after transfer and shipping.
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800. One thing to be aware of is brass availability. Or lack thereof..
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I have 2 Montana's currently, a .308 and a .223. I would prefer a .243 or a .257 but this one might be at a good price.
Brass availability... Can I make brass out of 300 WSM brass?
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If you can stomach Hornady brass then the brass issue is solved for now if a guy lays in a bunch. Hornady just released a run of 7 WSM a few weeks ago.
I am not sure one can make 7 WSM brass from 300 WSM well. The 7 WSM brass has differnt dimensions then 300/270 wsm
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Yes, you can use 300wsm, because when you run it through a fl sizing die, it creates a false shoulder. Stay away from 270wsm though, because you would run the risk of case separation, due to excessive headspace.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I false shoulder 300wsm brass to make 7wsm
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Cabelas had Win. Brass last fall. A new bag sold on GB tonight for $30.
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Probably the best turn-key, general-purpose killing rifle I've ever owned. I'd gladly pay $1000+ for another if I had to. Hornady 7WSM or else WW .300 WSM are decent brass options.
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How is felt recoil for a 7 WSM Montana compared to say a .308 Montana?
You are saying I should buy it and kill some stuff and then decide which to keep or to keep both?
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I have several hundred pieces of new Winchester 7 WSM brass available, if you need ammo.
I would HIGHLY not recommend making 7 WSM brass from 300 WSM. The 300 WSM, 270 WSM, 325 WSM all have a shorter shoulder by .038". This would create a big stretch of the brass at the case web, and you would easily cause a case head separation upon firing.
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Yes, you can use 300wsm, because when you run it through a fl sizing die, it creates a false shoulder. Stay away from 270wsm though, because you would run the risk of case separation, due to excessive headspace. How would 300 WSM brass work and 270 WSM not work, when they are both the exact same shoulder length? The 300 would neck down, but you could easily neck up 270 to do the same thing. And BTW, all this is a very BAD idea! I've seen case heads separate on much less than .038" expansion.
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I have several hundred pieces of new Winchester 7 WSM brass available, if you need ammo.
I would HIGHLY not recommend making 7 WSM brass from 300 WSM. The 300 WSM, 270 WSM, 325 WSM all have a shorter shoulder by .038". This would create a big stretch of the brass at the case web, and you would easily cause a case head separation upon firing. You don't what you're talking about.
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How is felt recoil for a 7 WSM Montana compared to say a .308 Montana?
You are saying I should buy it and kill some stuff and then decide which to keep or to keep both?
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Dave Buy it and keep both if you have a use for both. If you don’t do much backpacking, the 7WSM would get the lion’s share of hunting use, IMO. It comes back a little harder than the .308, but the stock design soaks up recoil extremely well, so there’s little discomfort. The extra pound helps there, too. The longer 24” barrel also makes it balance better than the .308, IMO. Mine needs another barrel. It’s the last one I’d sell for pure utility.
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Yes, you can use 300wsm, because when you run it through a fl sizing die, it creates a false shoulder. Stay away from 270wsm though, because you would run the risk of case separation, due to excessive headspace. How would 300 WSM brass work and 270 WSM not work, when they are both the exact same shoulder length? The 300 would neck down, but you could easily neck up 270 to do the same thing. And BTW, all this is a very BAD idea! I've seen case heads separate on much less than .038" expansion. You could use .270WSM brass, as well, but you’d have an added step of necking up to larger than 7mm before necking part of the neck down again to form the false shoulder for positive headspace. You also risk donuts that way. Easier and safer to use .300WSM brass.
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I have several hundred pieces of new Winchester 7 WSM brass available, if you need ammo.
I would HIGHLY not recommend making 7 WSM brass from 300 WSM. The 300 WSM, 270 WSM, 325 WSM all have a shorter shoulder by .038". This would create a big stretch of the brass at the case web, and you would easily cause a case head separation upon firing. That may be true if you neck down the full length of the neck, but leaving a false shoulder as previously stated keeps the case head snug against the bolt. I have a hundred Normal 7mmWSM stamped 300WSM. Jordan
How is felt recoil for a 7 WSM Montana compared to say a .308 Montana?
You are saying I should buy it and kill some stuff and then decide which to keep or to keep both?
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Dave Buy it and keep both if you have a use for both. If you don’t do much backpacking, the 7WSM would get the lion’s share of hunting use, IMO. It comes back a little harder than the .308, but the stock design soaks up recoil extremely well, so there’s little discomfort. The extra pound helps there, too. The longer 24” barrel also makes it balance better than the .308, IMO. Mine needs another barrel. It’s the last one I’d sell for pure utility. I agree with Jordan, the 7WSM and the big sister, 300WSM are pretty mild to shoot at max with the Kimber stock, my 300WSM Winchester Extreme Weather and 70 Classic Synthetic 7WSM were not so mild.
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I'm really enjoying my 7wsm as well. I actually sent my tikka 7mm rem mag down the road and kept the model 70 7wsm. The 7wsm doesn't seem to be picky like the 7mm rem mag has been for me. Now, about brass. I bought 5 boxes of federal factory ammo last fall. Are any of you still seeing that on the shelves? For that matter, what factory ammo do you guys find the most of? It's hard to find any around here..
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Yes, you can use 300wsm, because when you run it through a fl sizing die, it creates a false shoulder. Stay away from 270wsm though, because you would run the risk of case separation, due to excessive headspace. How would 300 WSM brass work and 270 WSM not work, when they are both the exact same shoulder length? The 300 would neck down, but you could easily neck up 270 to do the same thing. And BTW, all this is a very BAD idea! I've seen case heads separate on much less than .038" expansion. Like others already said, you don't know what the fu ck you are talking about.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Yes, you can use 300wsm, because when you run it through a fl sizing die, it creates a false shoulder. Stay away from 270wsm though, because you would run the risk of case separation, due to excessive headspace. How would 300 WSM brass work and 270 WSM not work, when they are both the exact same shoulder length? The 300 would neck down, but you could easily neck up 270 to do the same thing. And BTW, all this is a very BAD idea! I've seen case heads separate on much less than .038" expansion. Obviously, you have a lot to learn. Hint..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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