Home Forums Hunting & Shooting General Big Game 270 130,140 or 150 gr. Partitions any preference

I've seen more elk killed with the 270/130 combo than any other single rifle/bullet combo. All were standard cup and core's. One time I went up to our place and the game warden, who had been culling elk out of the hay meadow, was loading the last of the six elk he had just shot into the truck. Yup, 270/130.

I doubt he read "ballistic tables."

I have used the 95gr TSX through the 160gr partition out of my 270's.

Lately I have settled on a 130gr monometals.

With that being said, you can use any of three partition weights listed and have nary a worry.

I know of a firm which is hired out to kill whitetails. They use .338 win mags w/250 grain bullets as the don't want the animals to leave the property. They claim those whitetails don't even twitch. Haven't tried it myself but maybe one day I'll take old maggy out whitetail hunting.

I'm willing to bet that most 270's shoot 130 grain bullets better than they do 150 grain. Might be why you see those 270/130 combo.

Don't read or no anything about bullet drop or wind pushing bullets. If you have a chronograph and know bullet speed using ballistics charts give you a good basis as to bullet drop and windage. Those two things are pretty important to me. Then get out there and test that information. Shoot shoot and shoot some more.

**sigh**
I'll bet a chambering/bullet conversation with those "experts" would be an interesting and enlightening discussion: "Yep, we shoot them at the base of the neck (or head) and it drops them right there".

I think their shooting at distances to far to try for head shots. Could go for base of the neck shots but wastes meat when donating animals. I've seen some of their damage to the animal pictures, and their shooting them through the lungs. Quite a devastating hole.

But we all know that if we used a cannon ball @ 3000 fps vs. a needle @ 3000 fps at point blank range, the cannon ball is going to kill them faster.

Have you seen what a vanilla 270 with a 130 grain Sierra GK does to deer lungs?

It's a good bet that for a dedicated lung shooter a 264 mag loaded with 100 grain Ballistic Tips will be more of a "right now dropper" than a 338 with a 250.

No I haven't I'm a Nosler Partition guy. I do know how fast they drop using a .270 wsm 150 grain. Probably killed 20 -30 whitetail in last 10 years only one took more than one step.

But if that GK really explodes their lungs can you imagine what a .338 Sierra GK would do to deer lungs traveling at the same speed as your 270?

130s for deer and similar size.
150s for elk, bear and moose.
Probably shoot to a very similar poi.

140s for you buddy.

Your thesis has two problems: 1. The 338 Win mag you mentioned earlier doesn't move 250 grain bullets nearly as fast as a 270 does 130's. 2. You fail to take bullet construction into account. The 338, 250 grain GK is built tougher than the 270, 130 grain GK and won't upset nearly as much in the relative light resistance of a deer chest cavity.

Please share your 338 load that will launch a 250 gr bullet at 3000-3100 fps.

I've had 6 different 338 WM's... I've never broken much over 2,700 fps with any 250 gr. bullet/powder combo. And having killed elk with the 338 WM/210 Partitions at nearly 3,000 fps, vs. a 270/130 at 3,000 fps, I've not seen any difference in demise.

You're totally correct. The .338 win mag is only going 2750 fps and .270 is going 3000 -3100 fps. And because the GK 250 grain bullet is built stronger because it doesn't go as fast. That's what you're saying correct? The GK .338 bullets traveling at slower speed are built stronger than bullets traveling at higher speeds. I'm no expert on this particular question but if I were Sierra I would be building the faster moving bullet harder than slower moving bullets. But hey what the he!! do I know.

And I'm sure you're correct if you're saying that the .270 GK in 130 grain bullets are way more devastating on whitetail than a .338 win mag GK 250 grain bullet I"m sure you're correct on that.

Hey Southtexas I'm not sure where I got that load data that launches a 250 gr bullet and 3000-3100 fps. Maybe I didn't even post anything like. Maybe I was inferring that the .338 win mag 250 grain bullet is close to a .270 150 grain bullet. 150 fps maybe 200. But isn't that nit picking a little as it's only about a 7% difference in speed.

But again we can all agree that if we used a cannon ball @ 3000 fps vs. a needle @ 3000 fps at point blank range, the cannon ball is going to kill them faster. Keep making all the arguments about bullet construction, speed, etc, etc, etc.

But we all know bigger vs. smaller. Nuclear bomb vs. hand grenade. .416 rigby vs bb gun. Do I need to go on. LMAO

I love this debates.

No, I did not say the 338 bullet was built tougher because it wasn't as fast.

Your absurd examples are not relevant to the real situations.

You stated that I failed to take bullet construction into account. What did you mean by this?

The 338, 250 grain GK bullet is built by Sierra with a heavy jacket and hard core material so it will resist coming apart on impact with game much heavier than deer. The 270, 130 grain GK is pretty much a deer bullet.

Because I magnified the situation you don't see the relevance???? I'm not sure what is hard to understand.



I totally agree with this statement. But this does not make the .338 less devastating on an animal such as a whitetail. Seeing this information on the internet is simple. Go out do some research and look at pictures of whitetails shot with .338 vs .270's. It's easy for me to see which does more damage.

This is a really stupid argument. But I love the debate. I find it funny on these threads that if someone mentions the a larger caliber is better or kills faster the thread just blows up.

Most know that bigger, faster is more devastating creating larger wound channels and internal damage. Others well........

Have you seen the results of shooting a deer broadside through the rib cage with a first generation 130 Ballistic Tip loaded full throttle out of a 26" barreled 270? A 250 out of a 338 Winchester would have a hard time keeping up with that level of damage.

You stated earlier the team of "snipers" wanted deer dead on the spot. News flash - they aren't punching lungs to get the desired effect.
If a 20lb hammer hits the spine and breaks it with aplomb, why would one need a 40lb'er to accomplish the same thing?