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Criteria:
velocity, its all about the V
inexpensive factory ammo reasonably available (at least online)
a rifle that can be customized out the ying-yang
sub 30 caliber (who needs a 30 for most of what we do in the lower 48?)
I can't think of a better combo than a 25-06 and a 280 in 24" barreled M700s... run 85s to 100s in the 25-06, and 120s to 160s in the 280...
a 100 grain BT blue meanie in the 25-06 and a 140 E-tip in the 280 cover a lot of diverse ground...
what say you?
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270 Win with 110 TTSX's @ 3,400...
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Give me a 243 zipping 65gr VMax at a max load and my 270 with 130s for bigger stuff. Looking forward to spring. Hard to believe here it's been in the 50s all week and we don't have any more snow on the ground. 
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I'd go with a .280 AI and a 6.5x284, although I think that either one alone would be sufficient for your criteria.
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120 BT at 3125 out of a 7mm-08 ain't bad.
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120 BT at 3125 out of a 7mm-08 ain't bad.
P True. We have used that combination to take a lot of deer and pronghorns, and my grandson used it to kill a very large cow elk a little over a year ago--a complete pass-through.
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Give me a 243 zipping 65gr VMax at a max load and my 270 with 130s for bigger stuff.
Great combo there.....
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The 25-06/280 is a nice mismatched pair. I did this but 280AI instead. Also have a couple of 6.5s that split the difference well. If one rifle then a 6.5-06 AI or the 6.5x284 but the Creedmoor and Swede would be a good choices too. If you really want speed jump to the 6.5 Nosler or x 300 Weatherby but not many of us need that much speed.
No bad choices in the mid range small bores from 6 Creed on up.
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270 Weatherby 7828 SSC and 130gr TTSX. 25/06 4831 and 100gr Partition
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When you throw “inexpensive factory ammo” up near the top of the criteria ladder, I have to go with .243 Win and .270 Win.
What could be a sadder way to end a life than to die having never hunted with great dogs, good friends and your family?
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When you throw “inexpensive factory ammo” up near the top of the criteria ladder, I have to go with .243 Win and .270 Win. As perfect a combo as there is. I have had both for many years.
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Several beat me to it. But current on hand inventory would be .243 and .270. 100gr and 130gr NPT's for deer. 55gr NBT at 3500 fps in the .243. I've done this. Oranges at 30 ft simply evaporate. Or, 85gr TSX at 3800 fps in the .270, according to Barnes book...
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243 and 270 for sure with your requirements
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When you throw “inexpensive factory ammo” up near the top of the criteria ladder, I have to go with .243 Win and .270 Win. As perfect a combo as there is. I have had both for many years. It's where my purge ended up, plus a 223 to play with.
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223 and 243. Or 222 and a Swede. Or a Hornet and a Creed. Or a 7-08 and a 22 Mag.
But you still need a levergun at 30 or larger.
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yeah, but... 243 and 270 are so... ... ... common.
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Yes. Common as dirt.
Mine is 6.5CM and 280AI.
I'll probably add a 223, though I really have no use for one.
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yeah, but... 243 and 270 are so... ... ... common. Hence, the inexpensive ammo. One begets the other. When that’s your top box to check, you’re going to get “common,” and that’s about it.
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Mine is 6.5CM and 280AI.
I'll probably add a 223, though I really have no use for one. That’s the chicken dinner, right there. ^^^^^
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What could be a sadder way to end a life than to die having never hunted with great dogs, good friends and your family?
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270 Weatherby 130gr. at 3450 FPS
270 Win 110 gr. at 3400 FPS
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