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Yup. That 129 LRX is going to make the .270 Win the best it's ever been, IMHO, even with the non-optimal factory twists of .270 rifles.

It'll fly like a 140 grain match bullet fired from a 7mm Rem Mag and penetrate like a 200 grain C&C bullet fired from a .300 Win Mag. That is quite formidable.

So, the 6.5 Creedmoor has handily passed the .25-06 and 7mm-08 and is indeed chomping at the heels of the .243 Win and .270 Win. My guess is it will catch the .243 in the next 2-3 years.

Those numbers would indicate to me that the 6.5 Creedmoor must now be included in the old .243/.270/.308/.30-06 "Big Four" conversation as a member of the new "Big Five."

I don't think I could buy another one of the "Big Four" unless I stole it.

I could buy another .270 Win.

If I ever found myself for whatever reason having to trim down to one rifle, I'd buy another .308 Win, as well.

"Under $50/box" ...

Shooters Pro Shop: Nosler Trophy Grade .270 Win:
> 130gr NAB's @ 3075 fps for $33/box
> 140gr NBT's @2900 fps for $23/box

Midway: Federal Blue Box:
> 130gr Power Shock @ 3060fps for $18/box

For me, Nosler TG 130gr NAB's were three shot MOA in 3 out of 4 rifles I tried. Fourth rifle was a Kimber Ascent, 6.0 lbs all up with a 4x scope. Averaged under 1.2 MOA. The Federal Blue Box bounce around MOA +/- for me depending on the rifle.

Hunting bud and I each built a 26 Nosler on well worn 700 BDL 7RM's.

He later had a 270 Wby Shilen barrel installed on a tired old 7RM Tanger Ruger 77.

I've loaded for all three guns. It's amazing what the 270 Wby can do. With 130's, it'll give the Nos with 140's a run for the roses. And hunting WT's, etc. 130 not much different than 140. And the 270 Wby burns a lot less powder.

Good round.

DF

In that case, the numbers lie all the time. I've seen variations from published factory ammo speeds of over 200 fps. That's with standard barrel length for cartridge as well. There is no such thing as apples to apples when you look at the numbers printed on the side of a box. A rifle might do it or it might not.

If we're dealing with strictly factory ammo here, the best bet is probably a pair of .270's but that would be awfully boring.

No kidding, but when you're buying factory.....you get what you get. Last time I clocked 130 Corlokts they were 2,800 ish, not 3060....22" tube, but still...

Yep, my 300 win mag shoots Federal 180's around 2770. Buy a 300, get a 30-06. Handloading for it is extremely predictable, so it's not like it's the rifle.

I've been eyeballing a little remington adl in 270

Maybe you could see how Stick likes it....

I could but I'd like to leave my buddy out of this, you guy's are sure hard on a fellow that stayed up past his bed time, and I also apologized for my action's several times, what would you like me to do?

6.5 Rem Mag, 24" barrel pushing 100 gr bullets at 3,500 fps and 140 gr bullets shy of 3,000 fps, all from a 2.8" cartridge.
243 Winchester - can't go wrong with this chamber. Versatile taking 50 lbs - 350 lbs game animals. Quality 6mm bullets are everywhere.

You can run 110's at 3,500 in a 7 Mag or get the same thing done with 110's @ 3,400 in a 270. Except people will call you gay.

I've done this 2 gun thing a couple times, and trying to get back down to at least just 3 shooters. First time was awith a 257Rbt M70 XTR & 270 Ruger- with a 300WMg for the 3rd gun and ran that set up for 15+ years. 2nd time was a 6.5 Swede T3 & and a 270 M70, with a 300Wmg M70 or 9.3x62 for special applications. and should have stayed with that go anywhere do anything set up.

Right now I am back into a 6.5Swede T3 and a 270 M70 Sporter - that could become a 280 too - and a 7x57 M70 XTR for a Special Occasions shooter, and not going forward with the 7Rmg & 7x57/7-08 idea all 7mm idea.

IMO with any of the non mag 6.5's.you don't need a 243 which suits me fine. but the 7x57's while in M70's has been easy to load for in 140gr bullets so far, the 270 is too close a comparison and I'm looking for a pair or more of softer kickers as my lame shoulder gets worse every year, and the original diagnosis 12 years ago of it being crippled is coming more true after all.

OTOH ...better 25 caliber bullets that are availble these days in another Roberts yadda yadda yadda poverty will make the choices for me if the I'm not careful. this deep in geezerhood.
Ron

I’d take a 270 and 25-06. I feel both of those can be loaded down to coyote levels and also loaded up to be suitable for elk. If price hadn’t been in there I would’ve chosen a 257Wby instead of the 06.

i have same sentiment with SeattleSettler's comment that both rifles need to cover each other. I am not a varmint shooter, so no need to reach down to what a 22 or 243 can do. the 85s and 100s give me V in the 25-06, and the 115s and 120s give punch for bigger deer. The 280 can reach down to 120s for more V, but provides more big game punch for all-around with 140s and 150s, yet can step up to 160s and 175s if bullet weight really becomes a concern. the 280 gets me in 30 cal bullet weight range without the 30 cal.

With the performance of modern monometals, I have almost given up on bullet weight as a criterion for cartridge selection. All I need is enough BC to fly flat and buck the wind to 500 yards and I'm good to go. Something like a 120 TTSX in a 6.5 Creedmoor or 7-08 is all the killing power one needs for North American game. If I need "bigger," I'm still going to go light and fast .... something like a 160 TTSX is a .338 Federal at 3,000 fps. The Fed is a hammer and puts two really big holes in stuff. :-)

No varmints (which is fine with me) and I'd love to have a 6.5 Creedmoor (100-147gr, 127 LRX), .270 Win (110-160gr, 129 LRX) and .338 Fed (160-210gr, 160 TTSX) for a three-rifle battery. The Creed and the .270 would overlap a bit but would both have readily-available factory ammo for traveling while the .338 Fed would provide some extra comfort in grizzly country. All three are fine for deer, pronghorn, caribou, sheep, moose, elk and black bear. They'd also be great for African plains game.

Federal seems committed to providing reasonably priced ammo for their 338, (unlike remington feeding my 300 RSAUM). And monometals are probably the future with concern about lead in the environment...

With your criteria, I'd go with a .270 Winchester and a 22LR. That would be all I'd need(don't tell that to my wife).