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400s don't hold pressure like the 450s or the BRs.
That said, I've shot several thousand of them in 5.56. But they aren't my first choice. They are behind a lot of other primers like 41s, 7 1/2s and Wolf/Tula. They hold pressure just fine. Unlike say the Winchesters and Federals, you will blow a 400 before it will puncture.
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I have some rifles that would run fine with reloads from standard dies. I have other rifles, due to a tightly cut chamber, requiring SB dies. My advice, put a few rounds together and run them. This avoids the pitfalls of a bunch of reloads you have break down and redo. This. Sometimes empirical knowledge trumps all. I personally have never found the need for SB dies for any of the guns I've owned that historically called for their use by sage experts- various pump, autoloader, and lever guns- but maybe I was always lucky. As for primer pocket crimps, I have used the Wilson system for trimming, neck reaming, and crimp removal for lo these many decades. Better (more accurate) systems out there? Maybe. Faster ways? Undoubtedly. But it has served me well for my needs and volume of work, so I'm happy with it.
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If your just decrimping a few hundred cases or less, you can use your case mouth chamfer tool that you probably already have.
Just spin it a couple times in the primer pocket to knock the tight edges off the top of the primer pocket crimp. That will allow a new primer to slide right in but be quite tight.
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I use one of those L.E. Wilson deburring tools in the drill press to remove primer pocket crimp. That goes very fast, especially for large batches, and is easy to do consistently once you get the hang of it.
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Campfire Ranger
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I prefer to swage and lightly cut a chamber with a deburring tool to make primer seating easier.
I have yet to have an issue with cases run through a redding FL sizer in any of the 5.56 AR's I've owned, and that includes brass fired through other guns before fl sizing. Same ammo runs fine through my rem 700 223 bolt gun, but won't work in my son's rem 700 223 so it gets it's own brass.
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Campfire Outfitter
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If I hadn't picked up (literally) about 2000 once fired crimped 5.56 cases, I wouldn't bother with crimped primer pockets. They be a pain.
Got the RCBS swaging tool but still had to bevel the edges of the pockets.
P.S.
I know you can't tell once fired from many times fired by looking. Fortunately I watched two morons load multiple 30-round mags with factory LC ammo and then blow through them as fast as they could. Twice they did that - as in separate tripes to the range, and the brass had been pretty well policed before each trip. Got a few culls but not many.
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If I hadn't picked up (literally) about 2000 once fired crimped 5.56 cases, I wouldn't bother with crimped primer pockets. They be a pain.
Got the RCBS swaging tool but still had to bevel the edges of the pockets.
Suggestion, try setting the swaging tool deeper. Years ago, when I started washing, I failed to swage deep enough and had to chamfer. Property swaged, there is no need to chamfer the pocket. In 2017, I swaged and loaded close to 9000 .223 rounds. I purchase the 6000 count boxes of Hornady bullets. With careful buying my bullet cost is about 6.00 per 100.
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I use the Wilson deburring tool also. I had the Dillon swaying too, but the Wilson is much faster.
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