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Accuracy report please. Thinking about springing for one.


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Originally Posted by deerhunter5555
Accuracy report please. Thinking about springing for one.


Has anyone ever owned an inaccurate 17 HMR?

There isn't enough difference in accuracy between my $200 Marlin and my $800 Anschutz to justify the $600 difference in purchase price.

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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
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Accuracy report please. Thinking about springing for one.


Has anyone ever owned an inaccurate 17 HMR?

There isn't enough difference in accuracy between my $200 Marlin and my $800 Anschutz to justify the $600 difference in purchase price.

I get what you are saying, but actually, yes. After looking at some reviews and such, Ruger had some quality issues with a run of these. I was wanting to know if they cleared it up or if I should avoid it.


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They are generally very accurate, but if you read over on Rimfire Central, a lot of them are having FTE issues. My American Preadtor 22 magnum does.

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
They are generally very accurate, but if you read over on Rimfire Central, a lot of them are having FTE issues. My American Preadtor 22 magnum does.


And most of them work just fine right out of the box mine sure have... And ,anything about the rifle that is not up to snuff ,Ruger will make it right if you give them the chance.

90% of the dipschits on RFC could phuuck up an anvil with a cotton hammer, anyway.

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Thanks guys for the report. The FTE was the issue I found on Google. I guess they still haven’t fixed all the bugs.


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Originally Posted by 260Remguy


Has anyone ever owned an inaccurate 17 HMR?

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Unfortunately ..... CZ 452 American best is 2" @ 100 yards with 20 grainers .... 2" @ 50 yards with 17 grainers.

Bought the rifle used off of RFC, emailed CZ to see if they'd look at it and they told me to F--- Off and find a private 'smith to take a look at it.

Still sits in the safe as a $400 error. Oh well.

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Originally Posted by jk16
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
They are generally very accurate, but if you read over on Rimfire Central, a lot of them are having FTE issues. My American Preadtor 22 magnum does.


And most of them work just fine right out of the box mine sure have... And ,anything about the rifle that is not up to snuff ,Ruger will make it right if you give them the chance.

90% of the dipschits on RFC could phuuck up an anvil with a cotton hammer, anyway.



I do tip my hat to Ruger for being good at getting right the second time what they should have done right the first time. They certainly get plenty of practice at it.

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They are generally very accurate, but if you read over on Rimfire Central, a lot of them are having FTE issues. My American Preadtor 22 magnum does.


And most of them work just fine right out of the box mine sure have... And ,anything about the rifle that is not up to snuff ,Ruger will make it right if you give them the chance.

90% of the dipschits on RFC could phuuck up an anvil with a cotton hammer, anyway.



I do tip my hat to Ruger for being good at getting right the second time what they should have done right the first time. They certainly get plenty of practice at it.


They make more rifles per year than just about any US gunmaker so I am sure they have a busy service dept.

I have owned Rugers for 40 years -since 1978- at least 30 of them. Out of those, exactly ONE had an actual mechanical issue that needed to be fixed by the factory. And that was 25 years ago. I have bought six new Ruger rifles and handguns in the last 3 years and had zero issues.


I saw the list of "problems' you claimed with your Rugers over on the Gunwriters forum a few weeks ago. Three-fourths of those "issues" you mentioned were actually NON ISSUES that had more to do with you picking nits than anthing else .








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Originally Posted by jk16
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They are generally very accurate, but if you read over on Rimfire Central, a lot of them are having FTE issues. My American Preadtor 22 magnum does.


And most of them work just fine right out of the box mine sure have... And ,anything about the rifle that is not up to snuff ,Ruger will make it right if you give them the chance.

90% of the dipschits on RFC could phuuck up an anvil with a cotton hammer, anyway.



I do tip my hat to Ruger for being good at getting right the second time what they should have done right the first time. They certainly get plenty of practice at it.


They make more rifles per year than just about any US gunmaker so I am sure they have a busy service dept.

I have owned Rugers for 40 years -since 1978- at least 30 of them. Out of those, exactly ONE had an actual mechanical issue that needed to be fixed by the factory. And that was 25 years ago. I have bought six new Ruger rifles and handguns in the last 3 years and had zero issues.


I saw the list of "problems' you claimed with your Rugers over on the Gunwriters forum a few weeks ago. Three-fourths of those "issues" you mentioned were actually NON ISSUES that had more to do with you picking nits than anthing else .










I don't think guns that won't accept a magazine and has to go back to the factory is picking nits. I don't think a gun that has sights that cannot be adjusted to hit the point of aim is picking nits. Perhaps a gun that doesn't function out of the box and has to be disassembled cleaned and reassembled to work is picking nits, but I would ask what other products do we excuse the same on? Fishing reels? String trimmers? What? Perhaps complaining about a gun that won't extract spent brass 10% of the time is picking nits. Or a gun that won't function with the supplied magazine is picking nits. Or a gun that has a burr on the bolt face and gouges brass is picking nits. That's six out of my past 8 Rugers. The 10-12 Rugers I bought new before those had no such issues. Ooops, almost forgot about the slam-firing Ruger 10-22 magnum from the late 90s.

I am a Ruger slut, but I am no longer excusing their poor quality control. I will tell my stories, both good and bad, when the stories fit the conversation. I honestly believe they out produced their ability to adequately QC.

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
They are generally very accurate, but if you read over on Rimfire Central, a lot of them are having FTE issues. My American Preadtor 22 magnum does.


And most of them work just fine right out of the box mine sure have... And ,anything about the rifle that is not up to snuff ,Ruger will make it right if you give them the chance.

90% of the dipschits on RFC could phuuck up an anvil with a cotton hammer, anyway.



I do tip my hat to Ruger for being good at getting right the second time what they should have done right the first time. They certainly get plenty of practice at it.


They make more rifles per year than just about any US gunmaker so I am sure they have a busy service dept.

I have owned Rugers for 40 years -since 1978- at least 30 of them. Out of those, exactly ONE had an actual mechanical issue that needed to be fixed by the factory. And that was 25 years ago. I have bought six new Ruger rifles and handguns in the last 3 years and had zero issues.


I saw the list of "problems' you claimed with your Rugers over on the Gunwriters forum a few weeks ago. Three-fourths of those "issues" you mentioned were actually NON ISSUES that had more to do with you picking nits than anthing else .










I don't think guns that won't accept a magazine and has to go back to the factory is picking nits. I don't think a gun that has sights that cannot be adjusted to hit the point of aim is picking nits. Perhaps a gun that doesn't function out of the box and has to be disassembled cleaned and reassembled to work is picking nits, but I would ask what other products do we excuse the same on? Fishing reels? String trimmers? What? Perhaps complaining about a gun that won't extract spent brass 10% of the time is picking nits. Or a gun that won't function with the supplied magazine is picking nits. Or a gun that has a burr on the bolt face and gouges brass is picking nits. That's six out of my past 8 Rugers. The 10-12 Rugers I bought new before those had no such issues. Ooops, almost forgot about the slam-firing Ruger 10-22 magnum from the late 90s.

I am a Ruger slut, but I am no longer excusing their poor quality control. I will tell my stories, both good and bad, when the stories fit the conversation. I honestly believe they out produced their ability to adequately QC.


Did you give Ruger a chance to fix any of those issues? They will issue you a call tag/shipping label and fix the problem for free , if it arises.

And yes I agree with you about them pushing the limits of their manufacturing capabilities. Given the set of features on a Ruger American Rimfire-Magazines ,trigger ,safety etc conoated to their competition,folks would still pay a bit more for them.if the would simply SLOW DOWN the assembly a bit and tighten up their QC.

Ruger is not alone in this.Nor are firearms makers
Middle managers in Corporate America get bonuses fot meeting manufacture output targets..which rewards quantity over quality.

The sad thing is that upper management takes a short sighted veiw of how a drop in quality affects their long term reputation and sales.
Riger needs to look at what has happened to Remington lately to see how that story ends..

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Originally Posted by jk16
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
They are generally very accurate, but if you read over on Rimfire Central, a lot of them are having FTE issues. My American Preadtor 22 magnum does.


And most of them work just fine right out of the box mine sure have... And ,anything about the rifle that is not up to snuff ,Ruger will make it right if you give them the chance.

90% of the dipschits on RFC could phuuck up an anvil with a cotton hammer, anyway.



I have the Ruger American Target in 22lr & 22Mag, both are very accurate and neither have any problems. I don't have the .17 yet.

https://www.realguns.com/articles/993.htm


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Have predators in 22,17 hmr, and 22 mag.. all 3 feed and extract perfectly

I do love shooting that little 17


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I have sent guns back to Ruger, and they were great to deal with. Their customer service is industry leading. Unfortunately it is needed too often.

There are things to love about all Ruger products. My American Target 22LR and my American Predator 22 Magnum are both showing accuracy promise early in life. I think with more breaking in and ammo experimenting they will be great rifles. I haven't had my Predator at the range but once. When I brought it home I scrubbed the hell out of the chamber. I am hoping that corrected the FTE issue.

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This time a Ruger needed customer service, and needs it again.

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1075057


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