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'03 Springfield and Mauser, Winchester 54, Krag-Jorgensen, AR-15 (well, you do need something to pick the firing pin retaining cotter pin out).


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Originally Posted by deflave
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well, not a 700 or an A bolt...or a Weatherby


What's so hard about the 700?




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'03 Springfield and Mauser, Winchester 54, Krag-Jorgensen, AR-15 (well, you do need something to pick the firing pin retaining cotter pin out).




A loaded cartridge.


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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
Model 77 needs a small strong pin or finishing nail to put through the cocking piece, a Model 700 needs a dime and a strong bootlace. The 77 is easiest to insert the pin, you just rotate the cocking piece backwards a little bit, you'll need a strong bootlace or hard shelf of some kind to pull back the 700 striker far enough to insert the dime. So you'd need at least a nail or pin of the right size in your kit for the 77 and a dime for the 700. Btw, once you get the 700 bolt disassembled don't knock that dime out of place. wink

Neither of them is as easy as the classic 3 position safety rifles like a Mauser 98 (unconverted to two position type), Model 70 or the new MRC 1999. If you know what you're doing you can take a Mauser bolt completely apart in the field. In fact, that little metal stud with the hole in it in the stocks of German K98's is there to allow you to compress the firing pin spring to remove the striker, safety and spring.

Couldn't tell you about any other models as I only have experience disassembling those mentioned.

I have two Ruger M77, one MK II, and the other a Hawkeye African (both .338s). Anyway, I can strip the bolt without any tools (small nail or a piece of wire), and I am not really that strong (just an old guy). All you need is a good grip, one on the bolt and the other on the "whatyoumaycallit" that holds the firing pin. Just turn the "whateverit's called" CCW while firmly holding the bolt. There is a small grove or detent that you must go over, but once you do, it's a piece of cake. A finish nail or brad makes it much easier, of course.

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The whole thing amounts to having the initiative to do what must be done when afield. For example, take a look at this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCuY-w9Y6oY

Just carry another set of shoe laces smile

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Well, ya know, that's why Herr Mauser created his rifle with the three position safety and easy bolt stripping - the German Army wore boots with no laces... wink


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Well, hmmm. If you need to field strip a bolt during a hunt, aside from falling into a river in sub freezing temps, I’d say you didn’t perform adequate maintenance before hunting season. Happy Trails


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
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well, not a 700 or an A bolt...or a Weatherby


What's so hard about the 700?




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Even the most strident 700 aficionado can discern the difference between ease of disassembly between a 700 and the other rifles mentioned, 70, Mauser, etc, but I understand.


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So do we jorge.


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Only rifles that I've ever had a bolt problem with is Remington 700 2 broken extractors .....once on the 3 rd round in a Custom Shop rifle....then on a wilderness helicopter bear hunt leaving the rifle a single shot with one tag left and no spare rifle in camp....both needed a cleaning rod to remove fired case from chamber.....

I would never ever own a Remington 700 ever again.....Winchester Model 70's pre-64 type or a clone is the only way to go.....

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Among moden designs, it's Howa for the win, for certain. The CZ 527 (not a likely candidate for a remote big game hunt) is the same, except the bolt handle falls out.

98s without the 3-position safety require (for me anyway) a cut-off .45/70 case to pull on the cocking piece, a dime to put in the notch, and a little drill press vice to hold the dime.

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Originally Posted by coyotewacker
Only rifles that I've ever had a bolt problem with is Remington 700 2 broken extractors .....once on the 3 rd round in a Custom Shop rifle....then on a wilderness helicopter bear hunt leaving the rifle a single shot with one tag left and no spare rifle in camp....both needed a cleaning rod to remove fired case from chamber.....

I would never ever own a Remington 700 ever again.....Winchester Model 70's pre-64 type or a clone is the only way to go.....


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In 2016 built a 6mmBR on a Rem700 action, drove 900 miles did some target practice before hunting and pierced some primers.

We had to take the bolt apart to troubleshoot misfires. We found out about the dime trick, and found the bolt was full of pierced primer divots.


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Steyr SBS
Howa/Vanguard
Sako
Ruger 77
Tikka T3x

in that order, no tools needed for all but the Ruger with a finishing nail

Out of all of these the Weatherby Mark V can be "completely" field stripped if one has a shoe string or a sharp edge to catch the cocking piece.

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Originally Posted by jorgeI
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Only rifles that I've ever had a bolt problem with is Remington 700 2 broken extractors .....once on the 3 rd round in a Custom Shop rifle....then on a wilderness helicopter bear hunt leaving the rifle a single shot with one tag left and no spare rifle in camp....both needed a cleaning rod to remove fired case from chamber.....

I would never ever own a Remington 700 ever again.....Winchester Model 70's pre-64 type or a clone is the only way to go.....


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well, not a 700 or an A bolt...or a Weatherby


What's so hard about the 700?




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You need a shoelace, a penny and eye of newt to field strip....


It's a pretty simple undertaking.



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Originally Posted by deflave
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well, not a 700 or an A bolt...or a Weatherby


What's so hard about the 700?




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You need a shoelace, a penny and eye of newt to field strip....


It's a pretty simple undertaking.



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Not if you're broke, barefoot, and Mr. Gingrich is unwilling to go the Moshe Dayan route.


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I've found that people that worry about schit like this also don't routinely carry appropriate allen keys, torx wrenches, or screwdrivers. Which increases your chances of being SOL by tenfold.


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Of all the things to prepare for and worry about, the bolt is about bottom on the list.

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M70 is super easy, 700 almost as easy.

Never needed to during a hunt though.


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