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Either will work, but that's a pretty ignorant statement from someone who says they sell guns. Yeah the 7-08 is flatter overall but run the numbers for a 200 grn TTSX at 2700+ fps and tell me it's a short range round....can easily make a 3 or 400 yard shot.

I was visiting with a buddy about this thread.........

We came to the conclusion perhaps a compromise..........

You know .............

Kinda halfway between a 7 mm and a .35 caliber........

How about a ........308?

Funny ain't that the original parent case?

U Know 308 Winchester?

How could old farts KNOW?

To have picked it out?

Itz a miracle!

No elk in the world would know the difference.




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The .308 is like that girl that no one wants to boink.

Sure, maybe she has the goods, maybe she doesn't, but she ain't no 7-08 nor is she anywhere close to a .358. She's a pedestrian date at best.

Go 7mm-08 and 120 TTSX.

There will be no guesswork at all with this bullet out to 300 yards with the high velocity and it will easily penetrate as far or farther than a 250 NPT fired from a .358 Win at all ranges you’re talking about. Probably close to 50% less recoil means you’ll shoot it more accurately, as well.

I’ve killed a couple of bulls with this combo and I’m not exactly sure the 120 TTSX even slowed down as it passed through each bull. VERY impressive.

That 120 TTSX is a cool option. And 3,100 is a legit speed with some of today's powders.

ya we all kinda don`t what normal but the 308 is still a heck of a cartridge ,yes I like a 7mm-08 but last year my son for fun used his 308 Browning BLR and killed a big 8 pt. whitetail buck at 250 yards and a big 5x5 mule deer at 200 yards , many hunters would have mounted both these fine bucks,he also killed a big 6x6 elk with his bow all last fall 2017. son owns a 7mm-08 too but used the 308 for a change. that dang old 308 win is just a good old cartridge that will also get the job done. yes all 3 cartridges will kill animals but my favorite of the 3 is a 7mm-08 but in a pinch I would use a 308. good luck to all.

With the original poster stating he will not shoot at an elk over 250 yards.

1. How can a 7 08 be " better" than a 358?
A. At what distance?

B. How?

2. If any elk in the world would not feel the difference between a 308 and a 7 08 as per stated.

A. Why would one own a 7 08?

B. Would any elk in the world at let's say 80 yards..... not " feel" a difference between a 358 220 grain bullet.....and a 7 08 ?


Thanks.

the 358 winnie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To feel the difference it would have to experience being hit by both so it can compare..

The 7X57 was killing moose, elk, deer, elephant and everything else on the planet more than 60 years before the 358 was invented. A 7-08 does exactly the same thing with even better bullets than they had in the 1890's. I don't see how a more arched trajectory and greater recoil is an improvement over that proven success.

Why did the German military adopt the 8 X 57 over the 7 X 57?

Because 7mm Mauser did not exist at the time the parent cartridge of the 8x57 (Patrone 88 .318cal)
was developed and put into service (1888)

a couple tweaks to the existing service round(Patrone 88)and the 'S Patrone' .323 cal variant was born.

changes incl. dropping from 225grain RN, to much lighter weight 154 grain aerodynamic Spitzer.

How did the 7 X 57 get into the Spanish American war?

The San Juan hill deal?

Dear me, people seem to go out of their way to make this hard. There's nothing wrong with the 358, but why?

The 7-08 kicks less, shoots flatter, and if you're worried about penetration, a 160 gr 7mm will out-penetrate a 250 gr .358 of the same build.

I killed a 4x4 bull in 2013 with a 140 Partition from my 7mm-08, 68 yards. He took one step forward, one step back, and fell over. I didn't have time to put another one in him, he went down so fast. And it wasn't a CNS shot, either, I hit him in the left scapula, through both lungs, then caught the bullet under the hide.

I can't believe a different cartridge would have performed better.






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The 358 is very close to a 35 whelen, I doubt any elk could tell the difference between the two. So why don't we start a 7mm-08 vs 35 whelen thread and see how that goes.

If only , if only Elmer Keith & Jack O'Connor were still amongst the living.

I betcha they could settle this little carborundum.


Mike

No, no, no! I have a real problem - 280 rem or 350 remmag?

7-08 and partitions will kill an elk well beyond 250 yards. Softer recoil and higher velocity induces better accuracy which means you might well shoot 300-350 yards and not watch the big one walk because he was too far away.