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my 2 cents: I don`t live out west so I get stuck spending to much money for a non- resident license,plus gas,food maybe lodging, and time, I can`t just hunt the weekend ,so when I go west its for 2 weeks and I plan on fill`n my tag with a tasty elk. I hunt long and hard and yes I like 7mm-08 and even the 358 win. but to be honest for me both these cartridges are just ok for elk hunting. So from now on I will take my new rifle for elk hunting because distance or size will no longer matter. I built a weatherby mark 5 accumark with a custom brux barrel I a 338 lapua and put a niteforce scope and bi-pod on this rifle, I`m tired of having a bull elk at 500- 600 - 700 yards and wondering if I have a gun that can kill that bull,if its standing at 80 yards or 700 yards from now on and if you have the proper skills its dead with a 338 lapua . no more smaller cartridges for me to elk hunt with anymore, being a non-resident I just put a better chance on a tagged elk in my favor now with a 338 lapua from now on ! so if your a non-resident think about it maybe buy a bigger cartridge rifle to hunt elk with its worth the tasty elk meat ???? good luck,Pete53
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Many, many rifles are capable of kill zone accuracy at 500-600-700 yards.
Shooters, not so much.
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my 2 cents: I don`t live out west so I get stuck spending to much money for a non- resident license,plus gas,food maybe lodging, and time, I can`t just hunt the weekend ,so when I go west its for 2 weeks and I plan on fill`n my tag with a tasty elk. I hunt long and hard and yes I like 7mm-08 and even the 358 win. but to be honest for me both these cartridges are just ok for elk hunting. So from now on I will take my new rifle for elk hunting because distance or size will no longer matter. I built a weatherby mark 5 accumark with a custom brux barrel I a 338 lapua and put a niteforce scope and bi-pod on this rifle, I`m tired of having a bull elk at 500- 600 - 700 yards and wondering if I have a gun that can kill that bull,if its standing at 80 yards or 700 yards from now on and if you have the proper skills its dead with a 338 lapua . no more smaller cartridges for me to elk hunt with anymore, being a non-resident I just put a better chance on a tagged elk in my favor now with a 338 lapua from now on ! so if your a non-resident think about it maybe buy a bigger cartridge rifle to hunt elk with its worth the tasty elk meat ???? good luck,Pete53 With all due respect, very much an Easterner mindset on western hunting....
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split the difference and go .308 165 gr. TTSX will do well =] This just might be the best advice on ths entire thread. Not in my opinion... it runs the 165 mono too slow for my taste. just pour in a little more gunpowder.....or use a Northfork or A-Frame.
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my 2 cents: I don`t live out west so I get stuck spending to much money for a non- resident license,plus gas,food maybe lodging, and time, I can`t just hunt the weekend ,so when I go west its for 2 weeks and I plan on fill`n my tag with a tasty elk. I hunt long and hard and yes I like 7mm-08 and even the 358 win. but to be honest for me both these cartridges are just ok for elk hunting. So from now on I will take my new rifle for elk hunting because distance or size will no longer matter. I built a weatherby mark 5 accumark with a custom brux barrel I a 338 lapua and put a niteforce scope and bi-pod on this rifle, I`m tired of having a bull elk at 500- 600 - 700 yards and wondering if I have a gun that can kill that bull,if its standing at 80 yards or 700 yards from now on and if you have the proper skills its dead with a 338 lapua . no more smaller cartridges for me to elk hunt with anymore, being a non-resident I just put a better chance on a tagged elk in my favor now with a 338 lapua from now on ! so if your a non-resident think about it maybe buy a bigger cartridge rifle to hunt elk with its worth the tasty elk meat ???? good luck,Pete53 With all due respect, very much an Easterner mindset on western hunting.... > we don`t have as much time to hunt, but pay the most for a non-resident license on federal land in Montana we both hunt on. non-resident elk license in Montana about $800.00 / resident Montana elk license less than $50.00 this why we bring bigger rifles to fill our tags
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Aaawwww - cut to the chase. Get a 30-06 and go kill whatever - wherever. (Duck and cover now )
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my 2 cents: I don`t live out west so I get stuck spending to much money for a non- resident license,plus gas,food maybe lodging, and time, I can`t just hunt the weekend ,so when I go west its for 2 weeks and I plan on fill`n my tag with a tasty elk. I hunt long and hard and yes I like 7mm-08 and even the 358 win. but to be honest for me both these cartridges are just ok for elk hunting. So from now on I will take my new rifle for elk hunting because distance or size will no longer matter. I built a weatherby mark 5 accumark with a custom brux barrel I a 338 lapua and put a niteforce scope and bi-pod on this rifle, I`m tired of having a bull elk at 500- 600 - 700 yards and wondering if I have a gun that can kill that bull,if its standing at 80 yards or 700 yards from now on and if you have the proper skills its dead with a 338 lapua . no more smaller cartridges for me to elk hunt with anymore, being a non-resident I just put a better chance on a tagged elk in my favor now with a 338 lapua from now on ! so if your a non-resident think about it maybe buy a bigger cartridge rifle to hunt elk with its worth the tasty elk meat ???? good luck,Pete53 With all due respect, very much an Easterner mindset on western hunting.... > we don`t have as much time to hunt, but pay the most for a non-resident license on federal land in Montana we both hunt on. non-resident elk license in Montana about $800.00 / resident Montana elk license less than $50.00 this why we bring bigger rifles to fill our tags You are still missing the point...
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with respect to all, I believe bigger is better if you can carry it , handle it and I still can as can many others. my biggest bull scored 374 B.C. and that was with a bow at 75 lbs. but when I rifle hunt I will never be under gunned ever again at my age of 65 years, I have seen what can happen with a smaller caliber / cartridge rifle on elk even deer,you have many more limitations with a smaller cartridge rifle,plus someone may get your wounded animal/elk ? best to hit them hard ,knock them down and tagged them before someone else does ,on public land there are sometimes dishonest hunters who will tag a elk just because its easier they have no pride,i have had that happen before on a big 6x6 bull and I hope it will never happen again. As has been said with age comes wisdom to help others and at 65 years of age I am just trying to help some others and save them from a sad situation from happening rather your a easterner or live by the mountains. so good luck this fall 2018 ,have fun ,be safe,Pete53
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split the difference and go .308 165 gr. TTSX will do well =] This just might be the best advice on ths entire thread. Not in my opinion... it runs the 165 mono too slow for my taste. Same here. Run 150 or 130 TTSX in the .308 Win and we’re rollin’
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(7MM-08 + 358) / 2 =308 !!!
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I have seen 2 cow elk shot with the 7-08 both under 200 yards, both needed additional shots, 3 shots on one of them, 2 shots on the other. Both ran about 125 yrds. Further examination of the animals during field dressing revealed solid hits into lungs with factory premium ammo 150 gr bullets. My sister was the shooter here, an excellent shot. The animals knew we were there and were on a fast move and then stopped offering a shot. If i had a choice between both i would take the 358 any day, even on marginal shots that 358 makes a bigger hole.
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I have seen 2 cow elk shot with the 7-08 both under 200 yards, both needed additional shots, 3 shots on one of them, 2 shots on the other. Both ran about 125 yrds. Further examination of the animals during field dressing revealed solid hits into lungs with factory premium ammo 150 gr bullets. My sister was the shooter here, an excellent shot. The animals knew we were there and were on a fast move and then stopped offering a shot. If i had a choice between both i would take the 358 any day, even on marginal shots that 358 makes a bigger hole. Come on now.... Here's a few recent E-tip successes by my wife from her 7-8 and 140's at a very pedestrian 2,680 MV.... Coues Deer - About 330 yards. Never left its bed. Cow elk - 240 yards. 20 yard death dash. Exit Another cow elk - About 350 if I recall. Bang, slide down a big ravine dead. Javelina - straight down. 220 yards.
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Have to agree... Your's truly with a pretty nice 6pt I dumped at 40 yards with a 150 Ballistic Tip from the 7-08... Bull was angled away so I held for the off shoulder, which put the bullet through the rear ribs... it penetrated 32" of elk, and was under the scapula on the offside. The bull ran 25 yards and pitched over. I covered the 65 yards to the animal and it was stone dead when I got there. I've shot more than a couple elk and never seen one die quicker.
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Nice animals guys..........In spite of having my knees replaced last Summer, I was able to harvest this giant desert pig at my buddy's place. Must have weighed 300 lbs ( I'm a big, strong sonofabuck). Took it with my 7-08 and one well placed 120 Ballistic Tip.
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Have to agree... Your's truly with a pretty nice 6pt I dumped at 40 yards with a 150 Ballistic Tip from the 7-08... Bull was angled away so I held for the off shoulder, which put the bullet through the rear ribs... it penetrated 32" of elk, and was under the scapula on the offside. The bull ran 25 yards and pitched over. I covered the 65 yards to the animal and it was stone dead when I got there. I've shot more than a couple elk and never seen one die quicker. Nice bull! Question, why block your face out? I’ve never understood why folks do this??.....
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Nice bull! Question, why block your face out? I’ve never understood why folks do this??.....
Brad did us all a favor, as happens to be very homely.........that's putting it nicely.
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Nice bull! Question, why block your face out? I’ve never understood why folks do this??.....
Brad did us all a favor, as happens to be very homely.........that's putting it nicely. LOL, so true
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I have seen similar results as fireman.
In my opinion elk wanting to cover ground seem to be able to cover ground after hit with a bullet. Adrenaline perhaps?
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