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I have another NULA rifle I am going to sell. I bought this rifle from Dave Manson from Manson reamers. Dave Manson and Dave Tooley designed the cartridge around the 8-68S cartridge. It would be the European version of the 300 win mag. Dave had Melvin build it for him in 1999 just before he sold the company to colt. It is build of the Model 32 action which Melvin builds the 375 H&H off of. Dave had the rifle TiCN coated for wear and weather resistance. He has taken several Caribou and some mule deer with it. I had the rifle stock hydro dipped in a red cobra pattern.It has a Talbolt mount and rings(1") that return to zero as well as any setup. I havecustom redding dies, RWS brass and some loaded 180gr partition. The rifle will shoot SUB MOA with the partition and 1/2" with SMK's. I will take $2200 shipped for rifle rings, dies and loading stuff. If you want the Swarovski Z3 3-10X42 Add $500. Scope not for sale if not with the rifle. 7LB 8oz as pictured. 25" barrel round count is under 100.


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Couple more pics

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The round on the right is the 300 T&M Mag left is a 300 win mag

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That’s cool!

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I'm tempted to buy this just for the paint on the stock.


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That’s cool looking.


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Thanks guys. It's really a cool rifle. The 32 model runs $3999. This is a complete ULA build. Well worth the asking price if no interest I will keep it.


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Del, is making brass as simple as running the 8x68S through the .300 T&M sizer, loading, an fireforming? I assume the capacity is about the same as the .300 Win Mag or slightly greater. Any info would be appreciated.

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Dave, One pass through the die to neck down to 30 cal. That forms a false shoulder than fireform it. Load is IMR4350 72.5 Gr. pushing 180 partitions about 2950 FPS

I have about 80 or so RWS loaded and fired brass for the rifle. I doubt you would ever need anymore. The RWS brass is tough stuff.


Case capacity 86.1 gr H2O 8X68S

Case capacity 93.8 gr H2O 300 Win Mag

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That surprises me that the 300 win has more capacity,

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If you don't mind saying,who did the dipping for you.
Nice rifle.

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Wow, I keep researching and this continues to get more intriguing to me. I think the disparity in capacity between the .300 Win Mag is partially due to the thickness of the RWS brass and brand of .300 WM brass as well. It would appear to be a beltless .308 Norma Mag twin.

One more question for you Del: How is the recoil. I know the UL stock is very good in helping to manage it, but how about in this light rig?

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Recoil is not as bad as you would think. I keep saying this but recoil never bothers me in a hunting situation. It is not a rifle you want to sit on the bench and shoot a bunch but that's not what the rifle was built for.


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The first Ultra Light Arms rifle I tested (back in the late 1980's) was a .300 Winchester Magnum, and even with 200-grain bullets at 2900+ fps the recoil wasn't bad, and I shot it quite a bit over the several months Melvin let me use it. Of course, much depends on how the stock fits, and the design fits me well.


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Looks like a 30 Newton on steroids. I use 8x68 brass to make 30 Newton brass. In doing so I push the shoulder back and trim about .18" off. Leaving the shoulder in place and improving the case, I'm guessing puts case capacity at close to 92 vs the 93 of the 300 WM. Being able to seat the bullet out to the H&H action, I'm guessing would even the case capacities (with flat based hunting bullets).

Very very nice rig. If somebody does buy it, you'll regret getting rid of it about a week later!!


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Bump for a cool rifle!

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Last look this will be heading back to the safe.


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Thanks for the interest. This one will stay in Michigan no longer for sale.


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I am going to post this one again. I had lots of interest last time. So I will post for a couple days and see if any funds freed up for some guys.


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