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Midwest whitetail............. Think Remington made 7600's in all three of the OP's questioned cartridges. 
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Considering modern bullet performance...
At that range, there is only one deer cartridge listed. The other two are suitable for stuff that could pull your truck, if harnessed.
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The 3 biggest bucks I've ever seen were all taken with the 243. Mine was the smallest at 173" gross.
Year before last I took a 161"+ buck with a 250-3000. 100 gr Hornady Interlock smashed the onside shoulder joint and took out the lungs. The buck went maybe 30 yards. I took one look at the body size and went for the 4 wheeler and a chain. That 100 Hornady has taken quite a few large bodied deer for me over the years in the 250 and 257. Never a rodeo. These Kansas bucks may not be quite the body size of the northern midwest, but they are well above what I would want to load in the truck by myself. I can understand someone enjoying hunting with cigar sized cartridge/.bullets, but they're not required for whitetails.
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The 257 Roberts gets my vote but I use the 110gr Accubond in both of my Bob's.
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I don't know how you can go wrong with .30 cal and 165gr bullets.
Camp is where you make it.
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They all will work.
If not buying a custom rifle, then what is offered in the cool factory rig you want?
What if one of the three comes along at a screamin' deal?
I'm kinda flexible due to such factors.
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I've been hunting northern Nebraska whitetails for about 20 years, using 243, 260, 270, 308, 300 WM. This year will be my 35 Whelen just for sentimental reasons. All killed cleanly, the largest body was 340 lbs on the hoof per scale at the processor. went less than 20 yards, 270 130 interbond.
of all you list my only hesitation would be Sierra Gamekings in 257. deer wouldn't know the difference among any of the remainder.
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I don't know how you can go wrong with .30 cal and 165gr bullets. +1. Three chamberings you mentioned have all performed well for me. IMO 35 Whelen is just too much gun for a whitetail. It costs me about 2x as much to run my 35 Whelen as one of my 30-06's, and there is no improvement in performance. It also generates quite a bit more recoil.
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gunswizard,
Of those three calibers, I would pick the venerable .30-06. - I have three Model 760 rifles in that caliber.
That said, my "most reached for rifle" is my "pet" 1954-vintage Model 760 in .300SAV.
yours, tex
"VICTORY OR DEATH"
William Barrett Travis, Lt.Col., comdt.
Fortress of The Alamo, Bejar
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That 180 Remington round nose Core-Lokt is an old bullet, but our deer camp never lost a deer hit anywhere with that bullet. It was the Benoit bullet of choice when they tracked big deer out east when shot angles were not always ideal. A deer might run 50 yards, but you will always find them with an exit wound and a decent blood trail. You might need to look a little harder for those round nose, but they open faster than a pointed Core-Lokt which is what you want on a deer plus enough weight to get an exit. If you must use a 165 grain, that Hornady Interlock is also a terrific deer bullet. My biggest buck (210# dressed) took one behind the shoulder from a .308 and I had a great blood trail within five yards of where he stood. This was my go to load out of my .300 Savage. Never had a deer escape it's wrath.
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257 for me. Recoil gives my "getting" older bones a headache in no time.
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I have been using the 7mm-08 for a few years now. I don't shoot many deer with centerfires anymore; mostly patched ball flinters. I shoot a 120 grain bullet in the 7's and find it's pretty sweet for me. One is a little Abolt Browning with a 20" barrel and it's normally what I carry if I go in centerfire season. DRT is the normal reaction.
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My caliber of choice would be the .45-70 Gov't. Although I could live happily with a .35 Rem.
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The one that's easiest to carry......
What fresh Hell is this?
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Whichever one you wanted. I open the gunsafe, I take the rifle that hollers the loudest,
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I've killed quite a few deer with the '06/165 combination, and have no complaints whatsoever.
You can roll a turd in peanuts, dip it in chocolate, and it still ain't no damn Baby Ruth.
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I have the .30-06 sighted in with 165 's, this morning I picked up some 120 gr. Nosler Partitions for the .257 Roberts and some 200 gr. Hornady RN Interlocks for the .35 Whelen. The Whelen has always been my go to rifle for whitetail, the Roberts is a Paul Jaeger custom on a pre '64 M/70 it is easy to carry and has a really nice trigger making it a joy to shoot.
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Definitely 257 Roberts & 100 gr NBT...
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Amoungst these three calibers, .257 Roberts, .30-06 and .35 Whelen what would be your choice for midwest whitetails, typical shots being +/- 100 yards? All three would be shooting handloads, 100 gr. in the .257, 165 gr. in the .30-06 and 225 gr. in the Whelen bullets would be Nosler BT or Partition or Sierra Game King in all calibers. Actually, none of the above.........the 45-70 reigns supreme. Kills all deer dead, right fookin' now, as in they don't take a step & are generally very accurate at their range limitations. But of what you've listed the 35 Whelen is the best........... & that's way down my list. MM
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Caliber choice: 7mm/.284
Cartridge choice:
280 Remington
280 AI
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