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With only one scope bearing the NX8 moniker, I've got a feeling theres more to come, surely they will expand the desirable 30mm tube 8x erector. The current 1-8x24 specs are perfect and make me want to try a 24mm.

FFP, low profile capped windage, zero stop, FC reticle looks very functional for hunting.

Formi, how handicap is 24mm in low light hunting situations? Have you handled 1-8x24? Any word on future models?

Dang I think this little dude would be sweet on the Fieldcraft.



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It is an interesting scope. I'd read where the illumination was daylight visible and asked Formi about how low it would go at last light to avoid washing out the image and he felt it was good at the low settings.

I'm still a fan of a simple heavier reticle with posts coming closer to the center as much of my use will be in thick stuff. I'm liking NF's forceplex and wish it was available in the 2.5-10 NSX with illuminated center....lighted forceplex in this one would likely get a purchase from me.

Interested to see what size/power config they come out with next in this line.

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CT, two more ounces gets you a NXS 2.5-10 x 32. I picked one up for my 6 Creed Model 7. I think it will be skookum. Just need time to get out and do some shooting with it.

Still, this should be a great little scope.


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Bob, things I prefer with the NX8 over the NXS 32MM.

FFP
Reticle
Capped Windage.
8x Erector
Not Discontinued, can buy off the shelf.

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The NX8 as a package is a bad beeeech.... For any use where 1x is as, or more important than 8x, it is untouched by any other scope except for its bigger brother.


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For dangerous game or thick woods shooting- absolutely. For general hunting, the view is going to be relatively dark at 8x because of the small objective. It’s usable, and the glass is quite good though.





As for more scopes in the line..... y’all have to understand that NF will not realease anything without nearly least two years of testing and evaluation from select end users AFTER a design is finalized. I had the NX8 and ATACR in my hands a year and a half ago......

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Nice! So I have to assume you are either being tight lipped or have not seen any future models.

At the ever popular 6x the exit pupil is 4mm. Definitely not ideal for low light, but probably serviceable.

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Originally Posted by ctsmith


At the ever popular 6x the exit pupil is 4mm. Definitely not ideal for low light, but probably serviceable.


That was my thought....

NF needs a pass around program (grin). I can read subtensions on paper well enough but it ain't the same as looking through one...better yet, getting to use one.

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I know this. After using many and still owning some large objective low light binoculars, I got tired of carrying around the bulk and weight and took the 8x32 Lecias to the deer stand one day. I've never used another bino since. The exit pupil is 4MM. I've not once wished for more. Will never carry anything more than 8x32s for general hunting use.

This really has me thinking the 6x 4mm exit pupil may actually work out like the 8x32 binos. I may have to be the guinea pig.

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It’s pretty solid at 5-6x’ish. If that will work for your use, I think you’ll dig it. I have been trying to convince myself to use it on a bolt gun for a while.

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Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC


That was my thought....

NF needs a pass around program (grin). I can read subtensions on paper well enough but it ain't the same as looking through one...better yet, getting to use one.



Where are you located?

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Form, is there any restriction on where you place the front ring in relation to the objective lens?

I am ordering one of the mil/mil versions for my 375 M70 and I am trying to decide if I can get by with QRW bases, or if I will need a rail to get proper ring placement.


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Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
It’s pretty solid at 5-6x’ish. If that will work for your use, I think you’ll dig it. I have been trying to convince myself to use it on a bolt gun for a while.


When I was thinking on one, I read a couple of reviews from guys who used Frank Proctor's and they thought the scope was stretching it for use on 8x. One even said if you were gonna use it as a 1-6 it would be fine but if you wanted the 1-8 spring for the ATACR. Sound about right?

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Originally Posted by ctsmith
Bob, things I prefer with the NX8 over the NXS 32MM.

FFP
Reticle
Capped Windage.
8x Erector
Not Discontinued, can buy off the shelf.


All good points. I read what you write very carefully. You’re always on the money and I appreciate you sharing your knowledge.


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Originally Posted by TWR


When I was thinking on one, I read a couple of reviews from guys who used Frank Proctor's and they thought the scope was stretching it for use on 8x. One even said if you were gonna use it as a 1-6 it would be fine but if you wanted the 1-8 spring for the ATACR. Sound about right?



No. And yes. The whole use of a LPV is that 1x is more important than high power, but at times you need a bit of magnification though not at the at expense of close rangespeed. On an M4 close range speed is 70-80% of the task, medium range target ID and targeting is the reminder. Low power must be as close to 1x, with as wide a field of view as possible, and with a reticle that works. High power needs to be usable- that’s all. Even the ATACR isn’t as “nice” at 8x as say the 2.5-10x is on 8x. It’s a give and take. If I planned to, or need to be on more than 1x the majority of time, then the 2.-5-10x, 3-9x, 3-12x, etc come out with an offset red dot.



For what a 1-8x is most used for, I actually prefer the NX8.

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Sounds like I need to scratch the idea of it on a hunting rifle but now I want one for the AR.

Maybe NF will some day do the ATACR 4-16x42 in a lighter 30MM tube, but thats probably dreaming.

Or take the current NXS 2.5-10x42, make it FFP, cap the windage, and make the illumination/parallax knob low profile.

As it is, like always, I fall back on the LRHS (which ironically is discontinued).


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Originally Posted by ctsmith
Sounds like I need to scratch the idea of it on a hunting rifle but now I want one for the AR.

Maybe NF will some day do the ATACR 4-16x42 in a lighter 30MM tube, but thats probably dreaming.

Or take the current NXS 2.5-10x42, make it FFP, cap the windage, and make the illumination/parallax knob low profile.

As it is, like always, I fall back on the LRHS (which ironically is discontinued).



Yes, Form put it in perspective with "If I planned to, or need to be on more than 1x the majority of time.....". I live between 4x and 6x for 90% of my use. 1 out of every 10 I'll have to dial and don't mind having more x's then.

There is a lot I like about the 2.5-10. It's a little finicky regarding parallax setting but it can be worked around. The open/thin reticles are my biggest complaint but much of that is related to hunting thick woods and my preference. Open areas and at distance they are great but slower to find in thick stuff. The reticles NF uses are made with a bias towards open/longer shots which is understandable. A lighted Forceplex in the 2.5-10 would be my request....and I asked about that but NF won't make that change to a 2.5-10.

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Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC

Yes, Form put it in perspective with "If I planned to, or need to be on more than 1x the majority of time.....".


Exactly.

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Originally Posted by ctsmith
Sounds like I need to scratch the idea of it on a hunting rifle but now I want one for the AR.

Maybe NF will some day do the ATACR 4-16x42 in a lighter 30MM tube, but thats probably dreaming.

Or take the current NXS 2.5-10x42, make it FFP, cap the windage, and make the illumination/parallax knob low profile.

As it is, like always, I fall back on the LRHS (which ironically is discontinued).




I've been hoping on the 30mm tubed atacr for awhile myself. That would be a hard hunting scope to beat imo.

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