Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles WSM's dying????

I have 2 WSM's. Remington 700 Custom 270 WSM, Benchmark 26 inch #4 fluted barrel. RL 26 140 Bergers
Remington 700 Custom 300 WSM, Benchmark 26 inch #4 fluted barrel. RL 17 165 TTSX.
Remington 700 Custom 7 Saum , Benchmark 24 inch #3 fluted barrel. H4350 145 LRX. Close to a 7 WSM. LOL
All shoot awesome.

If you want a 270 WSM, buy one!

Eddie Fosnaugh is currently building me one. That said, I'm buying enough 270 WSM brass to last me into the future. I also have a 325 WSM, and have enough brass to last me the life of the barrel or until I die, but probably wont shoot the barrel out.....

I have a 300WSM.Really about the only bullet weights I've done much work with in it is 165 and 168gr bullets.Is it equal to a 300 Win Mag?No....It runs very close and it's a darn good round,but I think I can squeeze about 100fps more out of the 300 Win Mag.But if short actions are your thing,then the 300WSM is an excellent choice.It's really right between the 30-06 and the 300 Win Mag and that's not a bad place to be since you can kill just about anything with a 30-06.In the future,brass may become an issue due to this long range 6.5 trend that's going on right now.Sales and promotions of new cartridges is what kills a lot of the older good cartridges due to the lack of their sales.I really wish they would have built the WSM line on a medium length action.That would have given more mag length for longer bullets without eating up your case capacity.I guess time will tell,but if I was limited to one cartridge for all my hunting,I could live with a 300WSM.but that's just me.

I have both a 270 and 300 wsm, plenty of brass, even have an unopened bag of 300 wsm brass, hope they both stay around

Fret not. While there are plenty of other rounds available that will do what needs doing, if you simply must have a .270 WSM or anything else really, then locate a bunch of brass before you buy or build, then have at it. If you run out, then neck down some .300.

Just read an article that declares the 6.5 PRC might be the best hunting round ever. Don't know why anyone would mess with anything else!😜

Guess it's time for me to sell all my rifles and buy a PRC...........No way!!!!!!!

Notice he left out the old 264 Win Mag when he wrote the article on the PRC.

I like my 7WSM much better than the 2 7mm rem mags I had and got rid of. They aren't as finicky and they don't kick as hard. I'm really surprised the 7WSM doesn't have more of a following...

Always wanted a 264 Win Mag ever since I was a kid, can't think I'll ever feel that way about the PRC. Just purchased a Win Model 70 Classic Stainless CRF in 7mm Rem as a donor. Will have a 264 Win Mag put together in the very soon!

I just can't see buying any of the short magnums. I see no need, there is always a trade off, short action, 1 or 2 less rounds in any given rifle. The old 270 Win, which I don't own and never have is a great no frills cartridge. My brother had the 270 so I had to be different and go with the 30-06. He could shoot circles around me, but, Joe could do that with any gun or caliber combo. Have said that I'm not a bad shot, but Joe was a natural. My Father shot the 7mm Mag when it came out, so I could not go that route. Well the old 30-06, which I still have, still works just fine.
Back to the subject. I don't see the need for the short magnums, other than just needing an excuse to buy one more rifle, which I understand completely. But, I got to say the old stand by's are still the best in my mind. The 243 Win, 257 Roberts, 270 Win, 7x57, 30-30, 30-06, 300 Win, 338 Win, 35 Rem, 35 Whelen, 375 H&H, these cartridges work well and in the right rifle, say newer manufacture with tighter tolerances, and the new bullets being made today, these cartridge's work well. Yes there is a call for something special from time to time, but, how often?
Ok, the 7mm magnum should be in there, but, I personally can't go there.
So while these newer cartridges are a good on one hand, the extra 100 or 200 fps for the most part is not needed except on a rare occasion. I must admit that a stray from the above cartridges with a 6 x 47, 338-06 improved, 458x2, and a 35 whelen long before it was standardized, but often find myself right back a the standards.
Lately I find myself having fun with the good old 250-3000, 30-30, 30-40 Krag, 32 Spl, 348 Win, 35 Remington, and the 45-70. Which I realize is not even close to the subject, but, I was in the fold of looking for the "need for speed", unless you live in open country, you don't need anything but the old stand by's.
Just my 3 cents.

I bought a 325 just before Winchester started having financial difficulties. They quit promoting the caliber and it drifted into limbo. Luckily it had enough momentum for a while for a few companies to produce bullets and ammo. I bought 300 Winchester cases and shot what offerings were available. It does really well with Accubond and Barnes 200 grain bullets. Also 180 grain Barnes and the 168 grain bullet Barnes was producing for a while. Sierra also offers a 220 grain Game King and a 196 grain Match King. I really like the rifle and this caliber. Knowing what I know now, would I do the same thing? Probably. Does it fill a need which can’t be filled with another caliber? Probably not. One thing about the 325 though: it shoots a wide variety of bullets very well. It does land between the .308 caliber and .338, has good bullets out there for it, offerings in brass are limited although the 300 WSM case can be necked up if you want to shoot something other than Win brass.
It’s a hard hitter on elk, all the elk I’ve shot with it were one shot kills. My rifle kicks like a mule, less than a 338 Win, but enough that I don’t want to shoot it all day long. My rifle comes in at 8 lbs without a scope. It really needs a brake. I can only imagine what a 6 lb Kimber feels like.
I think the 300 WSM is here to stay. It really does what Winchester set out to do: closely (but not totally) match the 300 Win in a shorter lighter rifle. The rest of them haven’t really taken off and probably never will. I’ll keep mine though.

I think the 270 WSM will make it. I don’t know about the 7mmWSM

My 270 WSM is the most reliably accurate rifle that I own. If I shoot all of the reloading components that I have for it, I will certainly be rebarreling the rifle.


Dan

With bullet selection available these days, I'd think a 7/284 would always be preferred over a 270 when comparing the two on the same base cartridge, at least for handloaders. So,the 270 WSM potentially surviving while the 7 WSM wouldn't, just doesn't add up to me. I guess I am saying that I agree. LOL

I have two M70 Winchester Super Shadows in 7mmWSM. I won’t have any problems because they are hunting rifles and my hunting days are dwindling. That said, what, if any, rebarreling/rechambering options are available for those actions? Just wondering.

I have a 270WSM and 270Win both with 24" barrels. When loaded with 140gn bullets my 270 Win outperforms the 270WSM by a good margin, despite having less case capacity. Go figure !

Try a different bullet powder combination. Initially I was shooting 140 grain Hornady Interlocks using R-22 and getting 3088 with my 270 WSM.
I changed the powder to R-25 and the bullet to a 140 grain SST and got about 3175. My goal was 3200 fps. Both loads show exceptional accuracy.

I could probably try Magpro and hit 3200 fps but I don't think the deer is going to know the difference at this point.

Dan

From ballisticstudies.com : In recent years, wildcatters have necked down the 7mm WSM to form a wildcat 6.5WSM. Velocities produced by the WSM duplicate those produced by the .264, the major difference being that the WSM is able to use a short action rather than the long action used by the .264. The WSM is a beltless design which has the potential to produce smoother feeding than the belted .264.

That would be a fun little project. Same bolt face. Creedmoor on steroids.

I would like to have a 6.5 WSM. Be a fabulous deer cartridge, along with a hundred others!

The 300 will probably stick around. Not sure of the others but 300 brass will work for them.