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Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance magnum44270 #12801596 04/17/18
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,640 In the land of halfwits! N Nrut Campfire Regular
Nrut Campfire Regular N Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,640 In the land of halfwits!	Thanks magnum44270.. I'll have to give Rl-22 a try in my new T3x.. It's a great life if you don't weaken..

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Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance Fotis #12805261 04/18/18
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,819 Likes: 4 Southern Oregon USA S Seafire Campfire 'Bwana
Seafire Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,819 Likes: 4 Southern Oregon USA	Originally Posted by Fotis I have always been saying that. In a modern rifle, the Swede will come very close to a 6.5mm-06. I built a 6.5 x 57 ( use 257 Roberts Brass, Winchester stamped)... on a model 70 Long Action and it has a 28 inch Pac Nor barrel in a heavy magnum contour... Just wanted to have something to shoot longer distances with... bullets seated out... and according to my chronograph and his... depending upon load, mine will run with his 6.5/06 pretty much most of the time and occasionally exceed his... he also has a 6.5/06 AI....both my rifle and his 6.5/06 will beat it for MV... must be the barrel on that rifle that slows it down. I have multiple 6.5 x 55s also...but I prefer the 6.5 x 57 from the reloading point of 257 Roberts brass and the .473 bolt face... my other pushfeed Model 70, has to use Rem 6.5 x 55 Brass to reliably extract... its hit or miss with other brass... a Carl Gustaf 1919 Made Mauser, with full military furniture on it, I use that for 160 grain RN or 140 grain Rem SP bullets..( which are accurate as hell by the way) the charge is 30 grains of RL 7, which will duplicate the old military velocity... and between the load and the stock shape, it kicks a whole lot less than an off the shelf 30/30 ever does.. with the MV in the same arena... 2350 fps... "Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC “Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez

Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance geedubya #12805268 04/18/18
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Seafire Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,819 Likes: 4 Southern Oregon USA	Originally Posted by geedubya Gosh n' begora, I must be behind the curve, I've never seen the point in trying to get magnum velocities out of the Swede.............. +/- 3,000 fps mv out of a 6.5 Leopard (6.5-300 WSM), 140 gr. Sierra Spitzers. +/- 3,000 fps mv. out of a 6.5 -284, 130 gr. Accubonds +/- 2700 and change out of a 260 Rem, 130 gr, Accubonds and a measley +/-2,560 fps with the factory 156 gr. Norma Oryx, https://www.norma.cc/us/Products/Hunting/65x55-Swedish-Mauser/Oryx/ caught "Da Claw" in the neck, just a couple inches in front of the right shoulder, bullet exited just in front of the left hind. DRT, Nice thing about heavy slow bullets, you can eat almost up against the bullet hole. ya! GWB Glenn ol Chap... you don't have a rifle arsenal... you have a "Museum of Fine Rifles" my friend... of the pics you post, any of the best stuff I might have, all looks like I got them at the KMart Blue Light Special Close Out... when compared to your stuff... "Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC “Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez

Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance Old_Crab #12829939 04/29/18
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 608 kentucky L larrylee Campfire Regular
larrylee Campfire Regular L Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 608 kentucky	Originally Posted by Old_Crab Have been doing some study on the 6.5 cartridges, and ran across some interesting blurbs on the 6.5x55 Swede..... According to several writers, the 6.5x55 case can be safely loaded with enough powder, in new-and-stronger-bolt-actions, which allow it to exceed the velocity in a 6.5 Creedmoor on the 140-grain bullet (and larger) If this is true, it makes the old 6.5 Swede a very reasonable choice of cartridge in the 6.5-arena. (even though it puts you into a long-action) For those of you who have newer, stronger-action rifles, and load for the 6.5x55, do you agree or disagree with some of the claims I've been reading online? Your thoughts? Cheers. My Sako 85 Swede easily outdoes the 6.5 Creedmoor. "the .30-06 is never a mistake"

Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance larrylee #12829951 04/29/18
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geedubya Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 14,139 Likes: 4 Texas	if one is wanting speed, http://www.browning.com/products/fi...tion/x-bolt-hells-canyon-long-range.html he/she could always opt for the 26 Nosler! ya! GWB A Kill Artist. When I draw, I draw blood.

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Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance Trystan #12829960 04/29/18
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larrylee Campfire Regular L Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 608 kentucky	Originally Posted by Trystan I agree however the rumour that the increase comes with the 140 and above class bullets is a bit of a myth in that the increase is across the board with all bullet weights. I think the barnes bullets crowd likely can appreciate the added gain when pushing a 120 ttsx hard as barnes bullets seem to like extra velocity Personally I rather am liking running a midsized case in a long action. No more deformed bullet tips nor bullets being seated deeper from hitting the end of the mag box. Also at some point when they come up with an .800 BC 6.5 bullet I will have room where the Creedmoor might start to experience some difficulty 😁 The Swede has a more tapered case that IMO feeds like a hound dog lapping up sausages. Comparable brass seems to be a lot less dollars for the Swede compared to the Creedmoor and I've also found better deals on dies. The Creedmoor is toughted for its longer case neck versus the 260. The Swede has a slightly longer neck than the Creedmoor. Everybody knows the Creedmoor is an excellent deer round while the Swede on the other hand has slain thousands apon thousands of moose. Giving the capability of the Swede to more effectively handle 140 - 160 class bullets I would think it is possible this might have a ring of truth IMO there is little doubt that for the hunting minded enthusiast the 6.5X55 is definitely more Swede than the Creedmoor ☺☺☺ Trystan ^^^+1^^^ "the .30-06 is never a mistake"

Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance Old_Crab #12831612 04/30/18
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 46,965 Iowa R RickyD Campfire 'Bwana
RickyD Campfire 'Bwana R Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 46,965 Iowa	Originally Posted by Old_Crab Have been doing some study on the 6.5 cartridges, and ran across some interesting blurbs on the 6.5x55 Swede..... According to several writers, the 6.5x55 case can be safely loaded with enough powder, in new-and-stronger-bolt-actions, which allow it to exceed the velocity in a 6.5 Creedmoor on the 140-grain bullet (and larger) If this is true, it makes the old 6.5 Swede a very reasonable choice of cartridge in the 6.5-arena. (even though it puts you into a long-action) For those of you who have newer, stronger-action rifles, and load for the 6.5x55, do you agree or disagree with some of the claims I've been reading online? Your thoughts? Cheers. I don't see why it wouldn't exceed Creedmore velocities in all bullet weights for those who wanted or needed it to. But also not that it needs to. The 6.5 has been a known killer longer than it's had the powders and actions to increase it's velocity. The two Tikka Swedes I own are remarkably accurate, too. We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth? Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.

Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance Old_Crab #12839552 05/04/18
Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 1,188 Bandera, TX DubThomas Campfire Regular
DubThomas Campfire Regular Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 1,188 Bandera, TX	I got my 6.5 x 55 Fieldcraft dialed in yesterday. The load iI want to use anyway. I had tried loads with IMR 4350 and RL 19 soon after purchasing it and thought the IMR 4350 was going to be the load I stuck with. Chronograph showed 2660 fps for 42.5 grains of IMR 4350 with the 130 gr. Scirocco and 2740 with 45.5 grains of RL 19. The 4350 group better, but velocity was not what I was hoping for, especially since I have an abundance of 4350 powder on hand. The 45.5 load of RL 19 grouped a little over an inch but the 4350 was a .5 inch shooter. I loaded up some more with 46.0 gr. of RL19 and headed back to the range yesterday. That load produced a group size of a little under.75 inches. I didn't chronograph it but I will in the next couple of weeks. Then it will be time to lay some pigs and sheep out! The lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part!

Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance Old_Crab #12839592 05/04/18
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,701 Lakewood, CO z1r Campfire Regular
z1r Campfire Regular Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,701 Lakewood, CO	According to IMR, your 4350 load is pretty much their suggested starting load. Seems you have some room for improvement velocity wise if you want it.

Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance z1r #12839617 05/04/18
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DubThomas Campfire Regular Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 1,188 Bandera, TX	Originally Posted by z1r According to IMR, your 4350 load is pretty much their suggested starting load. Seems you have some room for improvement velocity wise if you want it. Yeah, I saw that load data for 4350, but that was for the 129 gr. Hornady. I got my max load data for 4350 straight from Bill at Swift. I may have to call them back and see if maybe I misunderstood and he gave me the starting load. The lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part!

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Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance DubThomas #12839626 05/04/18
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mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,860 Likes: 4	Swift bullets are "grabbier" than gilding metal jacketed ones, so maybe he's giving you a large safety factor.

Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance mathman #12839647 05/04/18
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Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,144 Likes: 1 Central Louisiana	Originally Posted by mathman Swift bullets are "grabbier" than gilding metal jacketed ones, so maybe he's giving you a large safety factor. Yep, and they have a long shank with lots of bearing surface. DF

Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance Old_Crab #12840508 05/04/18
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smithrjd Campfire Tracker S Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,468	I have owned several 6.5X55's, bought a Sako Finnbear in the mid 80's before most knew what a Swede was. I Won several "Hunter" rifle matches with the Sako. A M38 original Swede rifle, and a Steyr 6.5X57. The advantage that the 260 Remington and the 6.5 Creedmoor have is that they are "Modern" cartridges with a SAMI pressure much higher than the older ones. The 260 and 6.5CM are fine rounds, but do nothing anymore than the Swede can do, as long as you don't get heavier than 140g bullets. Any heavier then the old Swede shines. In a Modern rifle, the Swede can take the same pressure and seat long heavy bullets. Something the others can not. I have never figured out the attraction for "short" actions that limit you in COL, perhaps a few ounces? Last edited by smithrjd; 05/04/18.

Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance smithrjd #12840986 05/04/18
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jwall Campfire Ranger J Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 Southern Arkansas	Originally Posted by smithrjd ....Something the others can not. I have never figured out the attraction for "short" actions that limit you in COL, perhaps a few ounces? Prexactly ! ! 1/2” shorter and +/- 4 OZ >>> Big Deal The limitations outweigh the ? advantages ? IMO Jerry jwall- * 3100 guy* A Flat Trajectory is Never a Handicap Speed is Trajectory's Friend !!

Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance Old_Crab #12841050 05/04/18
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DollarShort Campfire Regular D Joined: Oct 2017 Posts: 1,513	A short action cartridge gives you a 5% increase in bore to barrel ratio....roughly.

Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance mathman #12841105 05/05/18
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Elvis Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,481 NSW, Australia	Originally Posted by mathman Swift bullets are "grabbier" than gilding metal jacketed ones, so maybe he's giving you a large safety factor. I have found this with the 100gn Scirocco in the .257 Roberts. I load 46gn H4350/100gn Scirocco to get the same velocity (3 100fps) as other 100gn bullets with 47gn H4350. The Swift seems to give higher pressures than other similar weight bullets. Sorry to get off track.

Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance Old_Crab #12841108 05/05/18
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Pappy348 Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 28,813 Likes: 4 West of the Blue Ridge	I always thought one of the advantages of the Swede was the good performance at modest velocity and pressure. Cranking on it, except maybe for an occasional special "occasion", even in a stronger action, seems like a contradiction. I've been having good success with other rounds (.270, .308, .30/06) throttled back a bit from max in recent years, and expect it will pay off in the long run with better barrel and brass life. What fresh Hell is this?

Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance Old_Crab #12841922 05/05/18
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mjbgalt Campfire Ranger M Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 15,754 Likes: 1	Yup. If I get to 2600 with a 140 I am happy with that and my shoulder and wallet and brass all thank me

Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance Old_Crab #12843133 05/06/18
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Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,144 Likes: 1 Central Louisiana	I see nothing wrong with letting the Swede out of the barn, letting it run with the fast dogs... I agree with it being especially suited for heavier bullets. I have some loaded in Lapua brass with 147 ELD-M bullets over a healthy charge of RL-26. There have been promising reports on that combo. My Swede also likes the 155 Lapua Mega and 139 Lapua, both over MRP (pretty close to RL-22). DF

Re: 6.5x55 Swede performance Old_Crab #12843210 05/06/18
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Jim_Knight Campfire Tracker J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 3,736 Sandy, Utah	I like to have two loads on both spectrums of any cartridge, I cal it Old School and "Modern". OS will usually be the heaviest, preferably round nose cup n cor I can get ( like a Hawk 190FN in the 30-30 ala .303 Savage) and then a lightweight Ballistic Tip or Barnes ( I haven't tried the GMX) going fast at least 60K (except for the 30-30, I keep its pressure SAAMI but like the Speer 130FN or 125 etc.) A 30-30 Ackley will never ( almost never) show any signs of pressure until you are in danger, ha!

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